Helped: 9 times Age: 52 Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 1541 Location: Australia
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:22 am
Jeanne wrote:
yes according to my clicks received and clicks done + the amount of credits I have bought how many credits should I have now? and since I don't even have a fraction where are they? They have been given to other users so they could show more links and get more clicks.
Now where does that stat show? since we're aiming for recognizing "efforts".
And since you have referrals that are strong clickers (myself being one) then a bunch of your clicks received is thanks to them not to your efforts..
What you & others do with your credits is your own call. To answer where they show up in the stats, I would have thought that obvious. You or others transfer to a neg you click the links you get the clicks added to your stats. Same now as it was before. What my referrals click has nothing to do with who has clicked me. never has & still wont affect the numbers I do
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What my referrals click has nothing to do with who has clicked me. never has & still wont affect the numbers I do
It sure does since you get a fraction of a credit for each click your referrals make it means you can receive more clicks than you make.
When you had your Xmass holiday and was gone a week your links got clicked all week - you returned to having more credits than you did when you left because a lotto pay out day happened while you were gone and your referrals clicked like crazy.
Helped: 9 times Age: 52 Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 1541 Location: Australia
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:39 am
Jeanne wrote:
It sure does since you get a fraction of a credit for each click your referrals make it means you can receive more clicks than you make.
When you had your Xmass holiday and was gone a week your links got clicked all week - you returned to having more credits than you did when you left because a lotto pay out day happened while you were gone and your referrals clicked like crazy.
Now your making this personal?? If it means that much to you, go recruit like I did. Wasnt all that hard & shouldnt you or anyone else be rewarded for bringing members to the site?
Just remember this, I didnt bring in the change, I didnt code it, I didnt even get asked about it. So if you feel that strongly about it, direct your rantings (objectively rather than personally) where they belong. As I said before, I like what the changes are aimed at doing & I think those that give as many links as they take should be recognised
Jeanne wrote:
Agreed and how this will stop feeder dynasties is beyond my comprehension.
Thats a comment I do agree with though. The only way to stop feeder dynasties & feeder members is to stop credit transfers
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Now your making this personal?? If it means that much to you, go recruit like I did. Wasnt all that hard & shouldnt you or anyone else be rewarded for bringing members to the site?
No I am not making it personal - sorry if it sounds like that (blame it on my very high level of frustrations over this update) I am responding to your explanations and yes I do think people should be rewarded for bringing new members to the site I just don't think it should be a "life-sentence" to be a referral. It is not "fair" that I get a fraction less for my clicks done than the next guy.
DemonicJ wrote:
Jeanne wrote:
Agreed and how this will stop feeder dynasties is beyond my comprehension.
Thats a comment I do agree with though. The only way to stop feeder dynasties & feeder members is to stop credit transfers
you nows what this means..
alot of hard work from everyone is just gone
ferrari is right so is sks so is Jeanne and manny others even boots....
this hole thing is just a mess
and people wil even leave more...
there are olready friends gone
because of all the changes that were going on...
Age: 55 Joined: 30 May 2008 Posts: 524 Location: Spain
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:28 pm
I want to know why everyone has not been treated equally. If these changes were made at the reset, all would start from 0 at the same time.
The way that Stan has done this, he has benefited members who play at the end of "yarold day".
Some of us click after the reset. Get most of our clicks before bedtime.
When we return for the 06.00 HH, we find our accounts at 0. After having done 90% of our clicks.
But who does the clicks at the last minute, gets the advantage ... WHY??? Some of my members want to leave Yarold because of this inequality made by Stan.
Therefore, I think it's right for a new reset, where we can all be equal. Where we can all start from 0.
Also, I was waiting for another change that we did talk about for a long time " allow emps to assign priveleges (accepting/promoting/clicking) only to certain individuals " - this would stop a lot of troubles.
i am wondering whether this is yarolds, or yer hotel exchance... i stopped playing yer hotel, but now neither history nor main is even worth turning a link for.. its all links i cant click, or have to come back every two hours for to click one link, then wait two hours, click a hotel again..
if more and more people start showing yer hotel, i might be one of the people that decides to leave yarolds. i do not mind having to set a link on for main to click main or history, but i do mind having tons of un-clickable links around, while knowing that they can click me since i mostly play dragcave or unicreatures. there are at least 6 hotels on the dynasty exchange alone.. i never get to click all of those on a day, either. now there are even more unclickable links.
Yes. As I said here before, YerHotel links are getting annoying. 20 Yerhotels in Main now.
Main clogged with Yerhotel, History clogged with Yerhotel... yes, people share links on Main. But how that helps others when I am not able to click those Yerhotels because of the two hours limit? I wonder if Mr. Yarold did not think about the "have I to show link on Main? Yerhotel is great idea, nobody can click it because of the limit!" thing or if he sees it as a serious problem already and is thinking about some counter-action...those Yerhotels are REALLY getting annoying...
I know another solution, but just to the Yer Hotel problem. Many will not like it, but many will.
Ban Yer Hotel links. Do not allow them on the site...when somebody tries to put a YH link up, make an error that says 'Yer Hotel links are not allowed on this site; Sorry.'
That is a way to get rid of the YH's...but some actually DO want clicks on their YH links...so there are problems with that.
Just a bit confusing for some, but I don't think so. It's nice to see gained vs given averages. I try to make it a zero-sum game by keeping my credit at a nearly constant level (with a nice cushion for sponsoring contests or crazy clicking days) and am now expecting these averages to reflect that. Thus making me a good "exchanger"? It's not too difficult using "Customize" to bring back the old view if you like, but I usually only option to see "links" except once or twice a day to read short notes.
Nice to see all the extra stats. Easy to identify who is gaining but not giving and should make it easier for many EMPs on deciding who to keep vs kicking and accepting new members when needs arise.
It's also nice to bring the playing field back to level by resetting stats. Maybe upsetting to some from reading above comments, but IMO, it's just the start of a new season, per se, and we should be judged with current performance and not so much living in the past.
Another something I do not understand...it tells me my average dyn clicks done are 0...yet others are at 399 and some even 500! I do not understand how it could be that way?
I know another solution, but just to the Yer Hotel problem. Many will not like it, but many will.
Ban Yer Hotel links. Do not allow them on the site...when somebody tries to put a YH link up, make an error that says 'Yer Hotel links are not allowed on this site; Sorry.'
That is a way to get rid of the YH's...but some actually DO want clicks on their YH links...so there are problems with that.
I was thinking of that, imo i think they should, also phantasyrpg links should be banned too, because if yerhotel was banned then everyone would put up those phantasyrpg links.
Age: 47 Joined: 28 Mar 2008 Posts: 457 Location: czechia
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:36 pm
well as always.....instead of simple change (for example like i suggested here http://yarold.eu/phpBB2/v...er=asc&start=60 you again decided to punish common members.... instead of trying to help the members you made all harder for them.... insteda of trying to solve the problem with "action links" you made so called human awareness test (lmao) which helps nothing just annoys... and now? instead of solving the problems with so called feeder dynasties and (finally) the problem with links in "main" you made this....thing... since i've joined i almost always showed my link in "main", even as a non-vip, now you forced me to remove my link from "main" coz i'm not going to feed the fake hoteliers with my credits.... (btw. i suggest you the phantasy rpg game, much more helpfull!)
really thanks for helping me with my game.....!
there is only one reason to stay for me, the friends i found here. be sure it's not the link exchange...those <5% of valid clicks i receive for my my-brute link i can get on hydra too or maybe even by spamming my contacts on icq....
at the end, can someone explain me, please:
1. how this change helps to eliminate so called feeder dynasties?
2. how the removing of total-clicks-done and total-clicks-received statistics helped to eliminate "feeder" dynasties or to see more links in "main"?
3. what reason is to have a "history" when i have to show there a link to click someone who already clicked me? is there then a difference between "history" and "main"?
4. why is the box for "links" in "customize" not set to be checked by default, is this also to help the "main" exchange?
5. where can be found the explanations for all that new columns?
Last edited by sks on Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:07 pm; edited 1 time in total
I still do not understand why it tells me my 'Average Dynasty Clicks done' is 0 while others' are up to 400....
And I agree with Bruno. this is day 1 of the new system and people are being so pessimistic. Look on the bright side and please give this system a try.
the new system on its own is not what frustrates me... its what some do toget around it, is! (( those **** yer hotel links!! and if some follow the advice from here, we will see those annoying fantasy rpg links again, too ))
the3 rest i am willing to give a try for a few days begfore deciding.
and bruno: ten link? that will be the end of yarolds for me.. i do not have ten game links that interest me! and i refuse to sign up for more games then i am interested in.
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