What about dynasties like my dynasty, which, although we accepted every person who wanted to join, was one of the dynasties who was hurt by this update? It's not fair to everyone, which is why my suggestion is better
I was going to let this argument die, but I cannot stand to be called a liar and accused of saying things I did not say.
Kronia wrote:
***And how can you say that MMC UBC took on very few newcomers? That is an outright lie.
The number of people you took into your dynasty who had <100 avg was small. I call it "very few". I'm thinking it was less than ten, although I wasn't watching that closely to know for sure. Do you have an actual number of newcomers that you took on, that you can quote to prove me wrong? Calling me a liar is a pretty strong accusation.
Kronia wrote:
Members of MMC UBC had actual FIGHTS with Jassej and Zvonimir because Jassej and Zvonimir absolutely refused to ever kick a joining peasant. We wanted to stop letting anyone join, and they told everyone in the dynasty: "Everyone gets a chance." And they stuck to it. Every person who joined was accepted, and every person who was accepted was allowed to stay until they didn't make the minimum clicks.
All well and good. I never claimed you rejected peasants. My exact words, which you quoted in the quote at the top of this post, were that you "took on very few newcomers". Your diatribe above does nothing to counter that statement.
And while I credit your leadership with accepting all newcomers, it is clear from your statement above that many of your other members, who had FIGHTS with your leadership, were not of the same mind, and were very much anti-newbie.
Kronia wrote:
If you ever claim again that MMC UBC ever rejected a single peasant, then I will call you out on that lie.
Again? Again?
How can I claim something "again" that I never claimed in the first place??????
Why are you calling me a liar when you are claiming that I said things I never said??????
Please be more careful when calling people liars. At least pay attention to what they said, and don't claim they said things they didn't.
I was going to let this argument die, but I cannot stand to be called a liar and accused of saying things I did not say.
Kronia wrote:
***And how can you say that MMC UBC took on very few newcomers? That is an outright lie.
The number of people you took into your dynasty who had <100 avg was small. I call it "very few". I'm thinking it was less than ten, although I wasn't watching that closely to know for sure. Do you have an actual number of newcomers that you took on, that you can quote to prove me wrong? Calling me a liar is a pretty strong accusation.
Kronia wrote:
Members of MMC UBC had actual FIGHTS with Jassej and Zvonimir because Jassej and Zvonimir absolutely refused to ever kick a joining peasant. We wanted to stop letting anyone join, and they told everyone in the dynasty: "Everyone gets a chance." And they stuck to it. Every person who joined was accepted, and every person who was accepted was allowed to stay until they didn't make the minimum clicks.
All well and good. I never claimed you rejected peasants. My exact words, which you quoted in the quote at the top of this post, were that you "took on very few newcomers". Your diatribe above does nothing to counter that statement.
And while I credit your leadership with accepting all newcomers, it is clear from your statement above that many of your other members, who had FIGHTS with your leadership, were not of the same mind, and were very much anti-newbie.
Kronia wrote:
If you ever claim again that MMC UBC ever rejected a single peasant, then I will call you out on that lie.
Again? Again?
How can I claim something "again" that I never claimed in the first place??????
Why are you calling me a liar when you are claiming that I said things I never said??????
Please be more careful when calling people liars. At least pay attention to what they said, and don't claim they said things they didn't.
UBC accepted every single member that tried to join. If you did not see newcomers like you thought you should, it was not because we were rejecting people, it was because not that many people were trying to join. Most likely they were trying to join with the number one spot, if they were newbs. That's kind of how it goes. So yes, while I wouldn't say you were outright lying, you had absolutely no idea what you were talking about and had no place to say it since you couldn't see what was actually going on. Just like we can't see who you allow in or reject.
Jassej's thing was "everyone gets a chance" and my thing was damn, I'm clickin' my ******* off to make up for the newbs!
Finally, with all this STUFF, I decided to join a dynasty that didn't focus on all of that, that didn't CARE, which is kind of ironic because I considered your dynasty, but it seems like you do care.. quite a bit, actually. (:
If I could, I'd kidnap Kronia and make her join J4F, but I think she's got her own mind and really wants to see her dynasty succeed the way it was originally made out to be. You really can't fault her, or the rest of her dynasty for feeling a wee bit jipped with the changes happening just at the time that they did. Right when they were about to be in the top spot.
I just don't care who's in the top spot, I just wanna click when I can, play games when I can, and not worry about whether or not my "team" is on top. I like liking the people I'm in dynasty with rather than feeling like I have to do a major Pull MY WEIGHT thing. I do fine and am much less stressed out that way.
Give Kronia her due, she's speaks very intelligently and has a lot of valid points, you're just picking and choosing from what she's said what you want to argue with.
I think it's time to get over it and see what the polls say and move ON.
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