It seems that numbers are thrown around, changed at whim and after reading the entire thread twice I am not able to find one single reason WHY are those numbers tossed around at all? What was wrong with the existing system? What exactly you are trying to 'fix'? Why is 400 better than 350?
There are contradictory arguments on both sides, as to what would be 'better'... better for what, better for whom? For dynasties, clickers, games we play, Yarold, egos,.. ? I don't think that there is a clear understanding what the heck we are talking about...
You're asking for suggestions? Suggestions for what? You need to provide a simple reasons for needed changes, some ideas what you're trying to achieve, than you might get some meaningful suggestions... and not pages and pages of emotional drivel
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What we want to improve is easy for you to see on your own dynasty allies page.
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Allied with 4 dynasties, total 133 members (including own dynasty)
You are allowed to have ally at moust with 350 members, which is 217 members more.
This is done to help smaller dynasties, to get a better dynasty exchange. Before this change your allies were limited to 4. that would be 133 members the dynasty exchange. there's no longer a limit on how many dynasties you can can ally with.
This is an improvement.
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:05 am
Being in a small dynasty, I'm liking this change. If a small dynasty isn't allied with at least 2 of the Big 5, it can be a struggle to earn dynasty clicks and keep your average up. Especially for new peasants who are still learning the ways of the site.
But I can see how the top dynasties would be resistant to this change. The system as it exists is working well for them. Not so great for us little guys
Being in a small dynasty, I'm liking this change. If a small dynasty isn't allied with at least 2 of the Big 5, it can be a struggle to earn dynasty clicks and keep your average up. Especially for new peasants who are still learning the ways of the site.
But I can see how the top dynasties would be resistant to this change. The system as it exists is working well for them. Not so great for us little guys
Rhicat, the solution was allowing all the smaller dynasties to band together. That way people too independent to work within the structure of another dynasty can go and find support among like minded people. I have no problem with that. I thought it would be rather funny if 350 individuals formed their own dynasties and allied together. I supported that.
The "big" (big for our averages not our numbers) dynasties will live with the 350 or any other number passed down to us, because we must. We will adapt and grow. If we must put out extra links to sustain our numbers, we will. The nice thing about belonging to the dynasties like ours is that we have few inactive members (negative credits or hidden links).
If the number is not going to drop to 300 and we are not going to be restricted to 60 members, it is much easier to adapt. If the last word about the 100 and 350 was the last word, then I thank the admins for giving a little.
I am fine with that and this solution should work for the big dynasties, too. At least at the moment it is an improvement for them, too.
(for example: mmc mob and allies = 327 members and we could make alliances with smaller but active ones now, too. Though only 23 members more, which means that we can´t do that effectively without booting an existing alliance)
But I see one problem: What happenes, when dyn+allies have 340 members and the next day 20 join the dyn+allies?
It is normal in big dynasties, that there join many new members, but leave or get kicked out, if they can not click enough.
I didn´t worry for my place
But automatically deleted alliances wouldn´t be so good for dynasties, too.
But with nothing changing at the 350 mark, all would make up to 500, so there has to be something.
I just have no good idea for that, at the moment. But I am sure that someone will find a solution.
Maybe that you can´t make new ones to peasants, when 350 is reached and have 2 days time to go below 350. And if you don´t come under 350, the smallest allianced dynasty will be canceled.
There is no automatic deletion of alliances. The way it worked yesterday was that when someone you are allied with exceeds their 350, you can no longer take new members. They said earlier in the thread that no one would be randomly gotten rid of. So even if your alliances total less than 350, if someone you are allied with exceeds 350, you cannot recruit.
"it is near impossible for any new dynasties to even have a chance of getting anywhere."
I'm the owner of one of those new dynasties, and I'm no whiney butt! Our large dynasties got that way through lots of perseverance and hard work on all their member's part. My dynasty should do the same or be kicked to the curb on the basis of our individual effort. I say let the big dynasties rock and roll!
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