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red oak 
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:59 pm   

CARE is a test to see how many monkeys will jump through the hoops for a candy...

Majority of us click the 'doorgans', & 'nexts' or whatever we were asked to do... & we know which links those are.

I saw a button on the new H.A.T... I clicked it... I'm not here to play additional games, nor read people's websites, I'm here to click... I see the button, I click it...

I failed the test... ok, I can live with that... Next time I put a random number in the box, I fail again, I don't know why... After the forth time I come here to find out what is going on... & what is it that this site requires... I'm given some wishy-washy reply...

Next thing I learn is that I failed all but 2 of the tests & that I'm not only stupid but irresponsible & uncaring clicker & need to be separated from the good ones...

Quote:
Test was made to divide users of site to those who click or do whats need after opening given link and those who close window.
...
Links that they would require any action from users are not showed to users who would close window anyway.

... i understand that its not easy to understand that user can get nothing when no action is taken when visiting his link.


I find it insulting at best and I no longer bother with the 'test', I simply skip it when I see it. FYI 'action' links are still available on Dynasty pages and I can assure all those that own them, that even though I'm classified as bad clicker, all required 'buttons' as always, are clicked, & so are double words and foxwar codes are typed in...

I'm not a monkey & will not jump through the hoops and I can survive without your candies...

This is not meant to upset anyone, just expresses my total frustration with the way this site is now run with total disregard for us, average members...
 
     
Yarold 
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:32 pm   

You dont need to post that you will not do the test more than once, however your welcome to post reasons why you do so, as works to remove them are not closed.
 
     
lurchman 
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:41 pm   

Yarold wrote:
You dont need to post that you will not do the test more than once, however your welcome to post reasons why you do so, as works to remove them are not closed.


Hello Yarold,
as I mentioned that I have not noticed once the Human Awarness test and I have now effect in Dynasty that I do not reach the highest clickers, I would expect that you give those who did not pass this test , or did not notice the test to get a second chance. I was looking today all time long for one of those test.

NO SUCCESS.

So what is your solution for those who want to see ALL links

Thank you for your answer and a solution

Lurchman
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Yarold 
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:50 pm   

lurchman wrote:
NO SUCCESS.

Is it no success as test didnt apear or there was problem with it ?
 
     
jennielynn 
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:35 pm   

lurchman wrote:
Yarold wrote:
You dont need to post that you will not do the test more than once, however your welcome to post reasons why you do so, as works to remove them are not closed.


Hello Yarold,
as I mentioned that I have not noticed once the Human Awarness test and I have now effect in Dynasty that I do not reach the highest clickers, I would expect that you give those who did not pass this test , or did not notice the test to get a second chance. I was looking today all time long for one of those test.

NO SUCCESS.

So what is your solution for those who want to see ALL links

Thank you for your answer and a solution

Lurchman


If your CARE rating is low, you'll simply have to keep clicking until you get more tests to pop up and you can build up your rating. Unfortunately, there's no way to build it up quicker, but it really shouldn't take too many tests to build it up, since 25% is the lower limit of showing those links.
 
     
phlaim 
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:32 pm   

lurchman wrote:
I was looking today all time long for one of those test.
NO SUCCESS.


Yarold wrote:

Is it no success as test didnt apear or there was problem with it ?


I'd say, no test appeared. He wants them to appear so he can fix the percentage.
 
     
lurchman 
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:50 am   no test appeared

jennielynn wrote:
lurchman wrote:
Yarold wrote:
You dont need to post that you will not do the test more than once, however your welcome to post reasons why you do so, as works to remove them are not closed.


Hello Yarold,
as I mentioned that I have not noticed once the Human Awarness test and I have now effect in Dynasty that I do not reach the highest clickers, I would expect that you give those who did not pass this test , or did not notice the test to get a second chance. I was looking today all time long for one of those test.

NO SUCCESS.

So what is your solution for those who want to see ALL links

Thank you for your answer and a solution

Lurchman


If your CARE rating is low, you'll simply have to keep clicking until you get more tests to pop up and you can build up your rating. Unfortunately, there's no way to build it up quicker, but it really shouldn't take too many tests to build it up, since 25% is the lower limit of showing those links.



Exact, I have seen now test at all and I am clicking alot, each day over 500 dynasty clicks but never reach over 600 like some other once, and they are over 25%.... so this is giving me a hard time.

Thanks for helping me out of this Yarold

lurchman
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Braat 
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:16 am   

what? I did not know about this test. My dynasty told me that this strange game with tipping in something I don't know, is not a game, but a test. Could you please announce such important things?

I made 720 dyn clicks today with 0%, but it was really hard work -_- Perhaps I could have had even more with 25% -_-
 
     
Roman 
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:06 am   Re: no test appeared

lurchman wrote:

Exact, I have seen now test at all and I am clicking alot, each day over 500 dynasty clicks but never reach over 600 like some other once, and they are over 25%.... so this is giving me a hard time.

Thanks for helping me out of this Yarold

lurchman


Same for me :(
No Test today and I want to rise my care rating ....

Greetings Roman
 
     
bailey 
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:26 am   

wow, am i glad i read some of these posts

however, once i looked into it a little more i found that i have 3/19, weird coz i too check everything, but i saw the human awareness tests the first few times and just presumed it was a popup, as i never clicked on one to open

anyways, i reckon they could make it easier to know when one is coming
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Braat 
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:52 am   

no. That would erase the sense of it

They could make it easier to know what to do with it. Many people (me too) just did not know, what to type in and therefore closed the tab. And I think most of all won't learn it, cause they do not read the support-threads in this board
 
     
chora 
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:30 am   

Well, i didn't noticed this test. My dynasty's friend noticed me and i found this post.

To tell you the truth i haven't seen no new updates on HowTo and Announcements sections, then i think that we can't be punished by something that we haven't knew.

Now in my profile it says CARE: 5/14 35.71% ALL links are displayed

I'm really disappointed with it. We follow the laws and this happens!

What we can do? Cry?
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ppj2005 
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:39 am   

chora wrote:
Well, i didn't noticed this test. My dynasty's friend noticed me and i found this post.

Now in my profile it says CARE: 5/14 35.71% ALL links are displayed

I'm really disappointed with it. We follow the laws and this happens!

What we can do? Cry?


You are able to see all the links, why will you cry?
 
 
     
chora 
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:49 am   

ppj2005 wrote:

You are able to see all the links, why will you cry?

I can see all the links, but i'm saying what about my dynasty's members that have < 25% ?
One of them said to me that he got a message "NOT all links are displayed". I think that it isn't a good way to punish because nobody were warned about it.
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fred007 
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:40 am   

Ok I understand now!
I always put 'anything' in the box! :mrgreen:
 
     
Anke 
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:06 pm   

That's bad for me. I thought it was just a new game, but after the first one I ignored the rest, because having to pass a test to be allowed to be shot dead made me angry.

Oh, well, if I don't "fail" too many because of Firefox crashes, maybe that'll right itself.

Chalk one up for "don't like how this was introduced", in case you're keeping a list.
 
     
stompi 
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:17 pm   

From FAQ:
"Please allow the pop-up pages to fully load and follow through with any subsequent data entry so the person will receive the benefit of your click."

From Code of Conduct:
" 2. Wait for the page to fully load and follow through with any subsequent data entry so the person will receive the benefit of your click."

If I translated it correct, this means, that we shall click on "doorgan", the double words, enter numbers, which are asked for and so on. So that is what I made and so I knew what to do on the different pages and I knew, that the "human awarenes test" was a new thing. My mistake at first was just, that I only clicked and didn´t enter anything, as no number was displayed. The next time I knew better and as it waits for 10 tests and only needs 25%, where is the problem? The only thing is, that it could be more obvios, such as only a button or with a displayed number to enter. But if you followed the rules, you should never had a real problem with it, because you would have passed more than 3 of the 10 tests.

And a little information, about that there are now tests, what they are good for (to help the people with games, where you have to enter something) and what happenes, if you don´t do the tests would really have helped to avoid confusion and irritation. (Not necessarily how they look like of course, as all can watch only for them if they know this)

How about making tests, which just look like the typical games with "doorgan", "ok", or a simple number to click. Least additional work for the clickers, not confusing anyone, more realistic for determining, who clicks right and who not. And if possible with the behavior of the games, which means that you can reload/refresh them, if you entered the false or waited too long and not just "You failed, but you cant try it again this time".
And as soon as this test works fine, you could remove the frames and count every opened page immediately. So the clickers who allready clicked on doorgan could immediately close the test/game and the others will be caught sooner or later by the test. The frames now only force you to wait, not to click anything. And there would be less "Error, one frame couldnt load ()".
But please make an information before you change it again.

But I am also fine with that test, as human beeings can adapt fast and the test doesn´t really take much time. ;)
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:38 pm   

I think there are to many mistakes to say this test is working.

1 I've had a few missed by snaplinks, if you 50 links snapt, and there are 2 tests in it, he count 1.

2 This morning before reset in snapt links, then there was reset, so I will click the links , and the test link say yarold reset.

3 Server time out, error page.

all these things, we can do nothing about, so I think its not a fair test.
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Metalteo 
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:44 pm   

stompi wrote:
From FAQ:
"Please allow the pop-up pages to fully load and follow through with any subsequent data entry so the person will receive the benefit of your click."

From Code of Conduct:
" 2. Wait for the page to fully load and follow through with any subsequent data entry so the person will receive the benefit of your click."

If I translated it correct, this means, that we shall click on "doorgan", the double words, enter numbers, which are asked for and so on. So that is what I made and so I knew what to do on the different pages and I knew, that the "human awarenes test" was a new thing. My mistake at first was just, that I only clicked and didn´t enter anything, as no number was displayed. The next time I knew better and as it waits for 10 tests and only needs 25%, where is the problem? The only thing is, that it could be more obvios, such as only a button or with a displayed number to enter. But if you followed the rules, you should never had a real problem with it, because you would have passed more than 3 of the 10 tests.

And a little information, about that there are now tests, what they are good for (to help the people with games, where you have to enter something) and what happenes, if you don´t do the tests would really have helped to avoid confusion and irritation. (Not necessarily how they look like of course, as all can watch only for them if they know this)

How about making tests, which just look like the typical games with "doorgan", "ok", or a simple number to click. Least additional work for the clickers, not confusing anyone, more realistic for determining, who clicks right and who not. And if possible with the behavior of the games, which means that you can reload/refresh them, if you entered the false or waited too long and not just "You failed, but you cant try it again this time".
And as soon as this test works fine, you could remove the frames and count every opened page immediately. So the clickers who allready clicked on doorgan could immediately close the test/game and the others will be caught sooner or later by the test. The frames now only force you to wait, not to click anything. And there would be less "Error, one frame couldnt load ()".
But please make an information before you change it again.

But I am also fine with that test, as human beeings can adapt fast and the test doesn´t really take much time. ;)


Thank you for you post. This is what I would call a constructive post.
Of course we'll look at the suggestion you made when improving the system.

And if anyone cares to know. The admins didn't know about this either. It can as much as a surprise for me as it did for you. But it's an awareness test.
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kito 
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:42 pm   

I have a question on this test.

The care line in the profile shows up like 10/20 tests= 50% All links or something close to that.

Is there a top for the number of tests for your percentage? Or is the number of tests just going to increase for forever? Or maybe a time limit on it? Say is it for the last 30 days?

I ask because I am curious and maybe it would help the people who were not aware at the beginning if they knew they could eventually fix their % I know when I first started seeing it I was in fast mode and just clicked the button without reading what it said. (hehe my bad)

I just know it will be really hard to raise in the future if the numbers grow forever.


2134/3489 numbers that big would be fun to see though :P
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