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Jeanne 
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:34 pm   Balancing clicks

It is really frustrating when a member won't balance clicks done/received and there's nothing I as Emp can do except kicking the member only to see him/her in the next dyn in my alliance still "stealing" my credits.
Every click that isn't returned means 1 member lost 1 credit and will give 1 less click tomorrow .. multiply that and see how many more clicks we could find if all balanced better.
I won't name anybody here but there is 1 member in UBC that daily clicks up to 1K more than he gives :evil:

Could we get balancing clicks within 1-200 as a part of CoC?
Penalty for not balancing = First 1 warning next a 3 days ban?
It would give us a tool to "threaten" members with: If you don't start balancing better, I have to report you to the Admins also if you leave this dynasty.
Off course those with links costing 4 or more credits per click are excepted and someone would have to monitor main members too (I would gladly sign up for that job to raise more clicks).

Or does anyone have a better suggestion?
 
     
Alba 
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:36 pm   

I agree with you totaly.

I've spoken to Yarold about that a few days ago but we didn't still look deep at this.

My suggestion is those members balanced under a "reasonable" percentage of clicks done, must lose the difference in credits and give them to Lotto.

As my english isn't too good and really i want everyone to understand what i'm meaning, i give an example:

clicks done today: 1500
clicks received today: 600

the difference is 900, if we take your suggestion, Jeanne, 200 as difference, there still are 700 underbalanced clicks, so... those 700 clicks become 700 credits for Lotto

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borracho 
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:49 pm   

good......

but what do you do for a new member that needs to build up credits?
 
     
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:50 pm   

I have suggested that before but with links that cost much more than 1 credit (I believe 9 is the top price) that model will mean those that click 900 and receive 100 = actually not hoarding credits will be in trouble :(


@Bo 200 a day should be more than enough building up credits imho :mrgreen:
 
     
Alba 
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:03 pm   

borracho wrote:
but what do you do for a new member that needs to build up credits?


Those "200" will help to build them (200 is just an example, i think it could be based in a percentage)

Jeanne wrote:
I have suggested that before but with links that cost much more than 1 credit (I believe 9 is the top price) that model will mean those that click 900 and receive 100 = actually not hoarding credits will be in trouble :(


I'm sure Yarold "have-finds" a way for exclude those kind of "links-users"
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Jeanne 
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:24 pm   

Alba wrote:

I'm sure Yarold "have-finds" a way for exclude those kind of "links-users"


Well one suggestion would be that all links cost 1 credit regardless of timer ehh time? Then those link owners also had a chance to get a min.avg. and be "good dyn members" :razz:
 
     
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:51 pm   

and if we had more people in yarolds clicking then there'd be more links pffft. happy hours these days don't reach the peak it did 2 years ago. Shouldn't the goal be to how to increase members in yarolds instead of chasing yet more members away?

The remaining members are trying their darned best to keep up the clicking levels, but it's not working. Recent lotto explosions tell the story. I hit 2720 clicks balanced in dynasty exchange when the 1st lotto exploded after balancing system was introduced. And it took me an hour to clear all the main links. With each following lotto explosion, there have been fewer and fewer links and I clear them in a shorter and shorter time frame. hmmmmmmmmm there is something wrong here .

When I was a noob, people boycotted my link because of it's timer. It's much easier to hoard credits if no one clicks you. Or not enough people click you. Dynasties we used to have 2 pages full of them and I remember having to wait for a space to enter a dynasty in the middle of the 1st page, not top but not high either. Yes the place was more active then. :)
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Jeanne 
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:09 pm   

And your suggestion to this topic is ...?
 
     
PaiGow 
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Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:46 am   

I am totally against form of global penalty of this nature...

For example... in my dynasty (Hippies Haven) we have a member who might not click at all during the week because of job, school, etc... but still shows a link for all allies to click.

If that member can only click on weekends and overclicks to build a reserve for the next week, you will be hurting them by depriving them their due credits and forcing them to go negative a couple days into the next work week.

My understanding of the intention of this site was to provide a place to show a link for games you play in exchange for clicking links of similar minded players.

When did that change?

Now on the other hand, if emperors want to impose balancing restrictions within their dynasty and punish offenders, all they have to do is kick that member from their dynasty.

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bluebell_rose 
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Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:40 am   

Jeanne wrote:
And your suggestion to this topic is ...?
I'm saying what if no one clicked your link because people were boycotting that certain type of link. How would the person balance then if he/she only played that game?
 
     
Alba 
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Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:01 am   

PaiGow: good point... *thinking now*

bluebell_rose wrote:
Jeanne wrote:
And your suggestion to this topic is ...?
I'm saying what if no one clicked your link because people were boycotting that certain type of link. How would the person balance then if he/she only played that game?


I don't know it, but i think it doesn't happens, most of us are so "crazy clickers" that we find the way of get any link around the site ;)
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Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:59 am   

You don't think it happens> I was there. I was a member with a boycotted link. People even said so in the forums. They were floods of 5 minute annoying pokeplushies links that could only be clicked one at a time. My link was boycotted and I was able to save up 1k credits clicking less the the alliance size and I was showing everywhere, and clicking without addons. Kinda hard to balance if your extras are all 5 minute timer links and it takes an entire happy hour just to go though them all.
 
     
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Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:36 am   

All members what is for this it's to serious!
You forget, that should be fun of clicking and try to improve your game and when somebody have just 1 game (example mmc) and is just because his game here why then should put more links?
I never say to my members must show extras, I say just, please can you show....if they don't want then don't must, it's simple.
I understand the point what Jeanne mean and from site dynasty she have right but others site, fun and game, she don't have right.
That just one way to leaving yarold for many members!
There is nothing to change, my opinion.
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Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:18 pm   

I agree with PaiGow and jassej , it is a a link exchange site you show a link you click a link, no matter how much..... when some dynastys dont like that just kick the member :)

just my idea, but that is the reason my dynasty name is

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Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:09 pm   

jassej wrote:

I never say to my members must show extras, I say just, please can you show....if they don't want then don't must, it's simple.
There is nothing to change, my opinion.


Of course you just ask your members to show extras, but yet you do believe that your alliance would be kind enough to show extras in return and not just click your extras just so that they can get ahead of you in the game. :shock:
(thanks for that tidbit jassej)




I have always said that if you aren't having fun clicking then it isn't worth clicking at all. Though when you have a member that is deliberately clicking just to have credits, and they are great at that (clicking) but yet won't show links, because of the want of credits, then there is a problem.
It also isn't fun when you see that you have alliances that don't show credits but yet click all your links continuously as well.

Members talk about that sort of thing...Maybe not the members in the 'winning' dynasties, but others do :wink:

PS....I am not naming any dynasties that we are associated with :razz: I am just stating something.

People are not stupid, they notice things, and they watch. Just because someone is an Emp or a Kamp....so what? They are the voice of their members as well, and when a member wants answers, who are they going to turn to?

I don't want to lose my GREAT clicker....so what do I do? Well only thing I can think of is training him/her to balance or working slowly by showing him/her that if you click and balance what you click then you won't loose those credits.

As for a dynasty that is taking credits but yet never really shows...depends on the dynasty. The ones just starting out, well to be expected, the others, well...to me that is tough as we are alligned and you would think we would want to help each other out, but if this is for fun and all we are really going to do is steal from each other, then I personally would cancel the alliance. I don't see any fun in stealing. :wink:
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:41 am   

Dustydragon, you say '' but if this is for fun and all we are really going to do is steal from each other''

what person would be here on yarolds, steal credits every day, and not show a link??? no one!!!! because what are you doing on yarolds when you only click links???? every person what is here on yarolds is coming here because he wants clicks on a link, what else would be the reason to be here lol. So no one is stealing, the only thing is, not all people are balancing, that means , some people click more than they show, so what????
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:04 pm   

Ferrari? Are you playing the same game I am?
So what?

:smile:
yes they have a link up, of course :smile:
but when you have members that are showing 10 links and this person is clicking their links yet not showing 10 links in return then where is the fairness in that?

Is the game not about balancing? I thought being in a dynasty was all about being part of a TEAM ? Helping one another , or do you somehow spell Team with an 'I' ? Because here in Canada we don't.

Our dynasty is about it's members and we are like a community helping one another and if one is taking from the others then no it isn't fun for anyone.

If I came to play at your house and we had 20 candies - 10 each and you shared 5 of your candies with me but i only shared 1 candy with you? How would feel? Cheated? Ya I think so :???:
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:57 pm   

happy hours would not happen if no one showed extras, A basic courtesy would be to show extra links should you attend an happy hour. Balancing is a way to show your links without losing credits and slowly going neg because you show more than you get back. My game is such that I am required to show links to advance faster and hunt for special pets called shinies. Should it not always be so? I show you mine. you show yours back.
 
     
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:26 pm   

bluebell_rose wrote:
happy hours would not happen if no one showed extras, A basic courtesy would be to show extra links should you attend an happy hour. Balancing is a way to show your links without losing credits and slowly going neg because you show more than you get back. My game is such that I am required to show links to advance faster and hunt for special pets called shinies. Should it not always be so? I show you mine. you show yours back.


Agreed, BUT: today I had serious internet trouble, I'm sure I was not the only one.. I snaplinked alot of links that refused to load, Virtupets., dragonadopters, etc etc, links that required action didn't load but vanished the moment I refreshed.. alot of credits for me but no action and no profit for the ones offering the links.. Overload of the earlier mentioned sites because of our "happy hour"?
I'd say: spread happy links instead of happy hours, that way game sites don't get an overload and I can click action links the way I like
 
     
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:20 pm   

Dustydragon wrote:
jassej wrote:

I never say to my members must show extras, I say just, please can you show....if they don't want then don't must, it's simple.
There is nothing to change, my opinion.


Of course you just ask your members to show extras, but yet you do believe that your alliance would be kind enough to show extras in return and not just click your extras just so that they can get ahead of you in the game. :shock:
(thanks for that tidbit jassej)



DustyPinkDragon Total clicks done: 363893

You are not new but and not old members.

I am not sure if you was there when just count clicking and because some members as you are, yarold change rules and now count minyday, each must balanced clicks IF WANT better place in dynasty ranking.

Also when I pressure my members then is ubc soon best dynasty because, at moment, our rival are just ******* but they are not enough strong for us.

So be happy that I don't want pressure my members.

Also for me it's ok when I have no top ranking but more fun FOR ALL my members.

And that MY DYNASTY and I have enough that me somebody say what I should to do (now pressure of my members), so if you are not happy with our ally feel free to end it.

For all others, because of this we have now minyday and that enough.

I am more for old rules, count just clicking, as for more pressure.
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