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robbedragon 
n00b

Joined: 23 May 2009
Posts: 4
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 5:28 pm   Someone want to help me out here?

Okay, I just started this site less than two days ago and when I started, my girlfriend wanted me to join Mini Ming Dynasty which I did and then went to bed. I wasn't able to get back online until late evening the next day and the Dynasty was complaining that my credits were negative and I had MAIN selected and I had no idea what they were talking about so my girlfriend logged on to fix it for me and get my credits back up. I come on today to find my account's been banned and there's no explanation as to why, either. Since I've started here, I've been degraded over four private messages and banned for no apparent reason so I think you at least owe me a good explanation and a chance to correct it.
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nhhk 
Gamer God

Joined: 28 Sep 2008
Posts: 284
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 5:46 pm   

Code of Conduct

Did you even read the rules? Nr.1 they say:

Do not make multiple accounts. Only one per person is allowed.
 
     
robbedragon 
n00b

Joined: 23 May 2009
Posts: 4
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 5:48 pm   

I only have one account.
 
     
nhhk 
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Joined: 28 Sep 2008
Posts: 284
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 5:51 pm   

ONLY 1 person per account. Your girlfriend logged into your accont, which means 2 persons on 1 account
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robbedragon 
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Joined: 23 May 2009
Posts: 4
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 5:55 pm   

Well, I'm sorry but SWLE is hard to navigate because it has so many spelling and grammer errors. She logged on to fix the problems that the dynasty was complaining about because they were sending me tons of messages yelling at me because my main was selected and wouldn't tell me how to fix it. If that's how you treat people that are just learning then maybe it's not worth it. I only joined so I could hatch my dragon egg and I don't care about the dynasty and stuff as long as my dragons live for once considering I don't know a lot of people to click the egg.
 
     
Bengel 
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Joined: 05 Mar 2009
Posts: 15
Location: Germany
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 11:07 pm   

nhhk wrote:
ONLY 1 person per account. Your girlfriend logged into your accont, which means 2 persons on 1 account


Sorry you do not think that you're the Pope than the Pope?

If your interpretation of it would go, would ensure 50% of Yarold users are banned, because the wife, husband or children with a click.

A double-account for me is 1 User, 2 or more accounts, and gaining an advantage in the credits gives!!!

So what should the nonsense, the wife, husband, children may not click with?
After your understanding also would have banned all users that are unique in the short term in a foreign account to another user to help with the profile settings is not clear.

:evil:
 
     
mao_nagra 
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Joined: 30 Apr 2008
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Location: Portugal / Italy
Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 1:00 am   

Bengel wrote:
nhhk wrote:
ONLY 1 person per account. Your girlfriend logged into your accont, which means 2 persons on 1 account


Sorry you do not think that you're the Pope than the Pope?

If your interpretation of it would go, would ensure 50% of Yarold users are banned, because the wife, husband or children with a click.

A double-account for me is 1 User, 2 or more accounts, and gaining an advantage in the credits gives!!!

So what should the nonsense, the wife, husband, children may not click with?
After your understanding also would have banned all users that are unique in the short term in a foreign account to another user to help with the profile settings is not clear.

:evil:

the rule is clear :)
1 person for account it doesnt mean that it is just a single person it can be a complete army :)
that it is important is that all that people just have that account and not others
if you have a account and go inside of one other you have 2 accounts and that is not possible
if you at home have a web line and you Sher it withe your brother ho have also a account you can't do that because the IP is one
if you use the PC in your school but there are others that do the same you and the others are in risk
 
     
DemonicJ 
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Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 1541
Location: Australia
Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 1:37 am   

Just to clarify, there can be more than 1 user per IP, but only one user per account. When someone goes into your acocunt changes links around then goes straight back to there account, its easy to spot. You were forthcomming in saying your girlfriend helped you out which is why its only a week ban.

As for the mail you recieved, all I can offer you on that is , if you were unsure what they were asking you should have replied asking how to fix it
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nhhk 
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 1:33 pm   

Quote:
Sorry you do not think that you're the Pope than the Pope?


No, im not think im the pope :wink:

Quote:
If your interpretation of it would go, would ensure 50% of Yarold users are banned, because the wife, husband or children with a click.


As DemonicJ said, he should have replied and ask HowTo. You never know what he's girlfriend really did there. The rules is the same for everyone


Quote:
So what should the nonsense, the wife, husband, children may not click with?


It's allowed to have more than 1 account per ip, but not by the same person. They can make their own account, and click there. Not on another account, who is not their own
 
     
radon 
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Joined: 10 Feb 2009
Posts: 7
Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 6:09 pm   

um, not that I am disputing that only one person can use each account, but where exactly is that stated in the rules?

"Do not make multiple accounts. Only one per person is allowed" means one account per person, not one person per account. If 500 people access the same account, each of those 500 people has only one account. They all have one per person, it's just the same one.

Maybe it could be changed to say "Do not make multiple accounts. Only one account per person is allowed, and only the account owner may access that account".
 
     
robbedragon 
n00b

Joined: 23 May 2009
Posts: 4
Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 10:48 pm   

Okay, I just wanted my question answered and as to the comment about asking the people who were sending me the private messages, I did ask them and they continued to send the same exact message about turning it off without telling me what it was or where to change it. I apologize for turning this into a big thing but as I said before, I only joined for my dragons and so far, it hasn't helped at all because I've spent the whole time arguing with the dynasty before I got banned. Now that I know it's against the rules to allow someone to access my account in order to fix a problem with which I did not understand, I will not allow it but there is another point I'd like to put into play. When someone breaks a rule, you're supposed to send them a warning and not jump straight to banning for any length of time. By giving them a warning, you will know whether they are breaking the rule on purpose or they did not realize it was a rule to break. That way, if they do it again, you can go for a full ban and not waste everyone's time. Also, if you insist on doing one week bans for small mistakes such as these, you could at least send them a message as to what they've done wrong so they can correct it and not do it again. I'm sorry if I sound mad in stating this but your methods make newcomers feel unwelcomed and unwanted which will drive people away from your site.
 
     
DemonicJ 
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Location: Australia
Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 11:25 pm   

Simple answer to that is read the Code of Conduct when joining, its there for a reason. A 1 week ban is a warning & this forum or mail is the way to get an answer. I simply dont have time to send warnings to everyone that breaks the rules (intentionally or not)
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activist 
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Joined: 13 Apr 2008
Posts: 61
Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 12:02 am   

The suggestion made in another thread that a newbie is auto on for Dynasty and auto off on Main would have avoided all this and i agree with many that it is a good idea to help the newcomers and not upset the Emps. A high percentage drop in negative members across the board would probably be the result.
How about a trial version?
HunkyDory.
Sorry,i know it is the wrong thread but the same topic.
 
     
Zidane 
Mini Ming Dynasty mod

Age: 47
Joined: 15 Apr 2009
Posts: 64
Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 1:44 am   

This is quite a good idea - set Yarold as "if you enter the dynasty, your Main will be automatically unchecked and Dynasty checked", that would spare emperors and us kampakus many mails about "please uncheck Main" and eventually telling how to do it. And it would spare the newbies from problems like the one Robbedragon had.

Robbe, the "gramatical errors and misspellings" and such are intentional I think. It probably represents "Japanese English", you know. And if you want to return to MINI MING after the ban expires, we will accept you and if you will have any problems, feel free to ask me or our emp.

CZ-Zidane, kampaku of MINI MING.
 
     
Sociopath 
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Age: 44
Joined: 12 Jul 2007
Posts: 27
Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 11:00 am   

One person per account is completely impossible to regulate as it would come down to opinion at the end of the day and people in "power" should not make decisions using that medium of thought.

I have seen someone post on here about being banned for him and his gf having an account each before yet in here you say it is allowed? Make your minds up and word the rules correctly in each language as "Do not make multiple accounts. Only one per person is allowed." clearly states one account per person so the rules have clearly lost something in the translation. Clear the rules up, as the rules in English are flawed and open to massive misconception (which is why people are misunderstanding the rules and getting banned for not understanding incomprensible rules).

I reiterate my point: The rules are not clearly written and need rewriting before you attempt to enforce the rules again.
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DemonicJ 
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The Mob Emperor


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Location: Australia
Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 11:34 am   

I doesnt come down to opinion at all. Without giving anything away, behaviours on the account are a good indication of how 'real' the other account may be. A classic I once had was someone arguing thwe point in a chat about the 'brothers' account, while arguing (he claimed one pc two users) both accounts were being logged into.

In some cases they complain about being banned on this forum but brag about having more than one account on other forums or on MSN. So please dont assume its "come down to opinion at the end of the day and people in "power" should not make decisions using that medium of thought." As those that are in 'power' are there at the request of the owner of the site. We dont perform, we dont stay in power.
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Sociopath 
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 3:34 pm   

I know the happenings of admin DemonicJ so no need to explain anything like that as I am admin at one of the games on here along with a few other sites that have no bearing with here.

I agree about the point of view of the activity however by opinion I meant as in that single persons view of the rules as it is not being explained well at all.
 
     
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