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  Topic: VACATION FOR ALL
scarlete

Replies: 56
Views: 28129
 PostForum: Suggestions   Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:46 pm   Subject: VACATION FOR ALL
DashaBlade wrote:
Hiding links is okay for those of us who are VIPs, but for those who aren't, their links will still show up for 24 hours in history - and since most non-VIPs don't have massive numbers of credits to begin with, they'll come back to a negative balance anyway.

I guess if there's no vacation option, a non-VIP's best bet would be to set their link to dynasty only, and then leave their dynasty if they're expecting to be gone for very long - at least then they might have a few credits left when they came back, maybe.


Not to mention that hiding links in dynasty is generally considered a no-no and will get you kicked.

I think the majority agrees with it, but that could be my imagination.

If vacation days could be implemented, that would be great too. Or optional for those days. Though it's probably a little late to try working on such a code.

As far as worrying about dragon cave etc, there are other places to put your eggs and hatchlings, so that really shouldn't be a concern.
  Topic: VACATION FOR ALL
scarlete

Replies: 56
Views: 28129
 PostForum: Suggestions   Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:39 am   Subject: VACATION FOR ALL
I love this idea, though I gotta tell ya, my holidays extend over all of these days and then some since we're Jewish, but I'm good with the days on "vacation" that we get. (:
  Topic: Over 5 hour wait time
scarlete

Replies: 40
Views: 26101
 PostForum: Support - Ask here   Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:54 pm   Subject: Over 5 hour wait time
(there's already a topic about this ok fine except that it wasn't in the "other games section") :/

Which for the record, is where I look when I'm inquiring about new games.
  Topic: Small update
scarlete

Replies: 84
Views: 42040
 PostForum: Support - Ask here   Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:53 am   Subject: Small update
MUSHpark wrote:
I was going to let this argument die, but I cannot stand to be called a liar and accused of saying things I did not say.

Kronia wrote:
***And how can you say that MMC UBC took on very few newcomers? That is an outright lie.


The number of people you took into your dynasty who had <100 avg was small. I call it "very few". I'm thinking it was less than ten, although I wasn't watching that closely to know for sure. Do you have an actual number of newcomers that you took on, that you can quote to prove me wrong? Calling me a liar is a pretty strong accusation.

Kronia wrote:
Members of MMC UBC had actual FIGHTS with Jassej and Zvonimir because Jassej and Zvonimir absolutely refused to ever kick a joining peasant. We wanted to stop letting anyone join, and they told everyone in the dynasty: "Everyone gets a chance." And they stuck to it. Every person who joined was accepted, and every person who was accepted was allowed to stay until they didn't make the minimum clicks.


All well and good. I never claimed you rejected peasants. My exact words, which you quoted in the quote at the top of this post, were that you "took on very few newcomers". Your diatribe above does nothing to counter that statement.

And while I credit your leadership with accepting all newcomers, it is clear from your statement above that many of your other members, who had FIGHTS with your leadership, were not of the same mind, and were very much anti-newbie.

Kronia wrote:
If you ever claim again that MMC UBC ever rejected a single peasant, then I will call you out on that lie.


Again? Again?

How can I claim something "again" that I never claimed in the first place??????

Why are you calling me a liar when you are claiming that I said things I never said??????

Please be more careful when calling people liars. At least pay attention to what they said, and don't claim they said things they didn't.


UBC accepted every single member that tried to join. If you did not see newcomers like you thought you should, it was not because we were rejecting people, it was because not that many people were trying to join. Most likely they were trying to join with the number one spot, if they were newbs. That's kind of how it goes. So yes, while I wouldn't say you were outright lying, you had absolutely no idea what you were talking about and had no place to say it since you couldn't see what was actually going on. Just like we can't see who you allow in or reject.

Jassej's thing was "everyone gets a chance" and my thing was damn, I'm clickin' my ******* off to make up for the newbs!

Finally, with all this STUFF, I decided to join a dynasty that didn't focus on all of that, that didn't CARE, which is kind of ironic because I considered your dynasty, but it seems like you do care.. quite a bit, actually. (:

If I could, I'd kidnap Kronia and make her join J4F, but I think she's got her own mind and really wants to see her dynasty succeed the way it was originally made out to be. You really can't fault her, or the rest of her dynasty for feeling a wee bit jipped with the changes happening just at the time that they did. Right when they were about to be in the top spot.

I just don't care who's in the top spot, I just wanna click when I can, play games when I can, and not worry about whether or not my "team" is on top. I like liking the people I'm in dynasty with rather than feeling like I have to do a major Pull MY WEIGHT thing. I do fine and am much less stressed out that way.

Give Kronia her due, she's speaks very intelligently and has a lot of valid points, you're just picking and choosing from what she's said what you want to argue with.

I think it's time to get over it and see what the polls say and move ON.
  Topic: Small update
scarlete

Replies: 84
Views: 42040
 PostForum: Support - Ask here   Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:52 pm   Subject: Small update
Frankly, I think the new ranking system makes it so ranking doesn't really matter, and maybe that's the point. The thorn in UBC's side is that it changed just as they were going to be number 1. (and omg I wish everyone would take down the "we're number 1 signs".

I just couldn't care less now. I joined to throw in my dragcave links, then I added valenth and myminicitys to help out during happy hour, then I foolishly spent money on credits so I could keep up. I spent/spend way too much time on this site clicking other people's links, who probably have extra links up for the very same reason I do.

Does anyone really care anymore? It's just a d*amn click exchange, for crying out loud, not a war.


Since it doesn't look like this is going to change, the pointless fighting over it is.. well, moot.


The one thing I think Yarold should have done before implementing this new system was have a poll, considering a good deal of us pay, but w/e.
  Topic: Small update
scarlete

Replies: 84
Views: 42040
 PostForum: Support - Ask here   Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:27 pm   Subject: Small update
Kronia wrote:
What a stupid, stupid update. This punishes many good, average-sized dynasties just because of a few dynasties who shot up the rankings because they only had a few members. The emphasis on having as many members as possible (the logical way to get as many clicks as possible) is a bad idea, and here's why: it has "dumbed down" the competition between the dynasties. Now instead of trying to recruit quality clickers, you also just try to grab anyone that you can. Having good clickers matters, but so does having sheer numbers, which doesn't take any competitive skill at all.

The only thing that makes Yarold's fun is the competition, and this update just wrecked the competition. I'm cancelling the contests I was running for my dynasty, because what's the point? Having everyone raise their averages above 600 now matters a lot less then simply recruiting another 35 members. I might as well just leave my dynasty altogether and just log on once a day to earn some credits. The fun competition is gone.

And by the way, the only peasants that ever got kicked from MMC UBC were those who didn't click the 350 minimum. We never kicked anyone just to help our average, and we accepted anyone who wanted to join and let them stay all they way up until they didn't click the minimum. This update punishes the WRONG people. What a stupid change.

Reverse the update ASAP. It wasn't well thought-out.


I'm pretty much in agreement. I don't see the point, anymore.

[ Added: Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:33 pm ]
Quote:
Fine by me. One less small dynasty to compete with, who got big by stealing big-average people from other dynasties and took on very few newcomers.
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I don't see how they STOLE anyone, everyone came of their own free will, it's not our fault who they followed or why, and ftr, we didn't follow her back, either.

We took/take on newcomers every.day. So much to the point that I complained about the extreme newbs who clicked the first dynasty they saw and tried to join, never to return.
  Topic: Antidynasty
scarlete

Replies: 55
Views: 20005
 PostForum: Dynasty Discussion   Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 4:41 pm   Subject: Re: Antidynasty
MUSHpark wrote:
DaBabes City wrote:
Our dynasty has had four members for months, and we have worked our way to being the "First to 500!" meaning the first Dynasty willing to work hard enough to attain a 500 average.

DaBabes City,

First, congratulations on achieving 500. Yes, you are the first to do so.

But I'll take issue with your claim that you are the first "willing to work hard enough" for it. If I took the "top 4" of my own dynasty, who have been willing to work hard for it, we'd be at 550 by now. And still not nearly as high as the top 4 of other dynasties.

Try comparing your 4 members' averages with the top 4 clickers in many other dynasties and you'll find yourselves far from the top. Your best clicker (you) is #67 on the overall game's top clicker list. That means 66 yarold's members are "working harder" than the hardest-working member of your own dynasty. MMC UBC has 4 of the top 5 spots, all with 700+ average, so if they kicked all but the top 4 people, they'd shoot up towards a 700 dynasty average. If they kicked all but the top 4 right before reset tonight, they'll shoot up 20 spots on the board, and be "first to 517", and leave you in the dust.

Thankfully, I think they're about more than getting the highest average, they're also about building numbers. I think they're more than willing to work hard. But they also are willing to take on new members with lower averages.

DaBabes City wrote:
We added a great clicker who has helped us, but another super one has left. We are actively recruiting more members, as we have been all along.


There's a difference between actively recruiting members who already have high averages, and actively helping newcomers, who may click 500+ per day, but start out with a "1". You have not been open to allowing new members to join, no matter how well they click. Any new members you "recruit" will, by definition, be coming from another dynasty, yet you'll get the credit for their success.

DaBabes City wrote:
Some people respect that we show more active links daily than some dynasties four or five times our size.

Good for you, and thank you for doing that. Providing more links is definitely a good means toward getting a lot of good allies, and having enough allies for your members to all click above 500 is how you achieved your current rank. Well done!

DaBabes City wrote:
Most have congratulated us graciously as our average surpassed theirs. Personally I am proud of our achievements, but then I know the thousands of hours of work!

Again, congratulations.

But again, you seem to take credit for "thousands of hours of work". DO you know how many thousands of hours of work my shoguns and I have spent helping newcomers and educating them on credits, links, browsers, resets, and the like? How much "work" do you put into educating your other 3 members? Seems the "work" is just in clicking.

Which is a lot of work, but I'll note that the 915,000 clicks that my dynasty's members have made are collectively many more thousands of hours of work than your 179,000. And by that measure, we must give major kudos to Gamers Alliance, who still sits well atop the heap at 7.25 MILLION clicks, thanks to a very newbie-friendly policy that doesn't much help their average but does help their size and longevity.

Given that total clicks seems to be the measure Yarold uses on a personal basis (VIP at 60K, for example), it seems a more appropriate measure of true dynasty greatness than whoever happens to currently hold the highest average.

Metalteo wrote:
What could be possible is adding a new ranking, that calculates total clicks done by all members in day.

In other words, it would be the sum of all members average or dynasty avg * total members.
It's all the same.

This would reflect the most active dynasty more based on the amount of members they have.

This calculation has no bad effect when accepting new members with low average. Infact even a new member with 1 avg, will still add 1 to the total.

I like this idea, but it still will hurt the "just starting out" dynasties.

I would prefer a system where the dynasty average changed based on that day's clicks from members, rather than the dynasty average changing based on personal averages.

SO a new member who could click 500 would apply 500 to the dynasty average, not their personal average of 1 (or 50, since it would actually take those daily clicks into account).

It was amusing watching the "Taking on the Average" dynasty when nobody in it was clicking but their dynasty average was only slowly decaying. Amusing, but not really representing a dynasty's effort.

Another possible new system which would not punish dynasties for taking on new members, is to only count the top 10 (or 20 or some other number) members. Or only count members who had been in a dynasty for 10 days or more.


Srsly, best comment in this thread.

I don't know when UBC was founded, but I don't think it took very long at all for UBC to get a lot of members.

The irony of how they got some of the better clickers, of course, does not escape me.

The smaller dynasties, two in particular, are not accepting new members who are new or have low click avg. Only yesterday did I notice that two of them did, and I now see that it was probably because of this thread. (:

Half the time I can't figure out what the heck Zion or Jassej are saying (online translators are not the best!), but they didn't do too bad getting their dynasty off the ground and fast.

How long has Net Freaks been around? Seems like at least a month or so.
  Topic: Kronia's Kontest 1: Results
scarlete

Replies: 5
Views: 3187
 PostForum: MMC UBC   Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:12 pm   Subject: Kronia's Kontest 1: Results
Awwww *pets*

I'll try this time, but omg life. I was wondering what happened to you yesterday.
  Topic: WINNING TEAM CONTEST
scarlete

Replies: 15
Views: 5908
 PostForum: MMC UBC   Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:38 pm   Subject: WINNING TEAM CONTEST
I transfered to the OP, since they're the one starting it. (:

No really guys, I'm ******* hard this week. :( I feel really bad about it, too, reset is 2am for me now!
  Topic: WINNING TEAM CONTEST
scarlete

Replies: 15
Views: 5908
 PostForum: MMC UBC   Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:14 pm   Subject: WINNING TEAM CONTEST
I'll sponsor. (:

Until the timezones are in sinc for me, there's no way I can even come close to what I was before.
  Topic: Introductions
scarlete

Replies: 30
Views: 11959
 PostForum: MMC UBC   Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:08 pm   Subject: Introductions
ooooooooooohmy, glad to see some nearer my age and hehhehehe, Kronia, you're 20? You'd never know. (:

37, a million kids, it seems like, 18, 14, 5 and 3. Married, crazy, into all that.

Er, I'm in the US, close to my girlfriend, Ali. :D
  Topic: So Cool!!
scarlete

Replies: 10
Views: 4069
 PostForum: MMC UBC   Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:05 pm   Subject: So Cool!!
This is MOST awesome!

Thanks Ferrari and Cheryl! Glad to be allied with you both!

I will be glad with all our time changes get back in sinc because omg, it's messing me up!
  Topic: So where are you from?
scarlete

Replies: 89
Views: 69340
 PostForum: The Mob   Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:02 am   Subject: So where are you from?
Tampa, FLorida, USA.

wow, everyone else but Ali is soooooooooooooooo far away!
  Topic: Why Shakymon is banned?
scarlete

Replies: 21
Views: 10369
 PostForum: The Mob   Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:25 am   Subject: Why Shakymon is banned?
EPSA wrote:
What is an autoplayer?


I believe it's a program that automatically updates and clicks links for you throughout the day.
  Topic: Why Shakymon is banned?
scarlete

Replies: 21
Views: 10369
 PostForum: The Mob   Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:41 pm   Subject: Why Shakymon is banned?
Well, I gotta admit it irks me good that someone uses an autoplayer when I sit here and click my butt off just to keep up. :mad:
  Topic: Why Shakymon is banned?
scarlete

Replies: 21
Views: 10369
 PostForum: The Mob   Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:00 pm   Subject: Why Shakymon is banned?
haha, mmm, excuse my brain. It's on pre-schoolers and no sleep. (:

Def not short, it's going to be a long climb back up to the top once he comes back, if he even decides to come back. Couldn't be an autoclicker though, could it? how can you even tell when someone uses that?
  Topic: Why Shakymon is banned?
scarlete

Replies: 21
Views: 10369
 PostForum: The Mob   Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:18 pm   Subject: Why Shakymon is banned?
I think it must be a short ban?

Banned: yes till 2008-11-15
  Topic: 500 Club
scarlete

Replies: 39
Views: 14986
 PostForum: The Mob   Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:43 pm   Subject: 500 Club
Keen!
  Topic: Why Shakymon is banned?
scarlete

Replies: 21
Views: 10369
 PostForum: The Mob   Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:06 pm   Subject: Why Shakymon is banned?
I'm trying to figure out the same thing! I just asked Cheryl!
  Topic: Some updates.
scarlete

Replies: 20
Views: 9640
 PostForum: Support - Ask here   Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:35 pm   Subject: Some updates.
Glad I saw this, I was wondering what "??" was.

I also like that it's not "emp" anymore, and says "Emperor" ;D
 
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