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  Topic: Admins who are also emp's or dynasty leaders
Jeff

Replies: 61
Views: 35074

PostForum: Dynasty Discussion   Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:50 pm   Subject: Admins who are also emp's or dynasty leaders
Sorry Jassej!
Yes, I see people are still voting. And THAT is useful. Thank you.

I just didn't and still don't want any MORE hard feelings produced from a thread I started.
  Topic: Admins who are also emp's or dynasty leaders
Jeff

Replies: 61
Views: 35074

PostForum: Dynasty Discussion   Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:24 pm   Subject: An apology, an opinion and a request
First I want to make public my response to thoughtful PM I recieved from TiddaMouse -

I appreciate you taking the time to write me!
We do not know each other and I took liberties with what I said regarding you.
I apologize for saying what amounted to a personal attack on you. I didn't intend to try to hurt you, only that you were here once, now you are not and people had no right to use your name to infer a slander on Marga, who is here daily trying her best to do right by her friends and allies.
I'm sorry.

Also, I am as guilty as anyone when making assumptions. And like anyone, I can be wrong in assuming they were talking about Marga. BUT, like everyone, I believe I am right. Only a fool or insane person believes something he knows is wrong. For the most part, I am neither. LOL!

Second -
I started this tread and poll to illustrate a problem I believe exists without accusing anyone.
Things have, as always, gone a bit too far!
It is perfectly fine that we may disagree on things. I don't expect agreement from anyone just as I don't expect to have to agree. The only thing REALLY required is respect for each other and our beliefs. That's all. Besides if everyone agreed on everything the world would be a dismal place. A wise man once said, "I never learned ANYTHING from someone that agreed with me."
I know that Jay has some very good points. I also know that he performs a necessary and thankless job very well. I simply pointed out a conflict of interest and never even said anything about ANYONE specifically. Given what I have actually said, why does EVERYONE "know" it was aimed at Jay? LOL!
Anyway...

Stan, my solution is that admins that run dynasties be careful and practice personal restraint when dealing with others. If that cannot be accomplished, then others need to have a recourse to voice grievances and be heard and duly considered. And if abuse of power or out right wrong-doing IS in fact uncovered, it is dealt with in a meaningful way.
I am NOT suggesting and have NEVER suggested anyone be demoted.

As the originator of this thread, I believe that everything constructive has been said.
I have said more than what I wanted to say. I believe it is better to disagree and debate openly, rather than behind closed doors. I don't want public finger-pointing and name calling. That is counter productive.
This thread has apparently gone way beyond my original desires to make people aware of a possible problem and possibly make an admin think about what they are doing and how it is percieved, BEFORE they do it when performing dynasty functions.

Once more, I (and possibly you) am a victim of my own desire when debating to "ga verder"!
LOL!
(I just LOVE the way that rolls off the tongue!)

It is MY wish that Yarold please close this thread, not delete it, just lock it from further entries.


Best regards!
Jeff
  Topic: Admins who are also emp's or dynasty leaders
Jeff

Replies: 61
Views: 35074

PostForum: Dynasty Discussion   Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:15 pm   Subject: Admins who are also emp's or dynasty leaders
DemonicJ wrote:
People will come & people will go, whether they pay or not. If they are leaving because of an admins actions, maybe they should be looking at why admins are constantly removing their short notes, posts in forums, multi accounts or adding warnings & even bans (both in the forum & on the exchange site). Admins are here to make sure the rules are followed & to take appropriate action to rectify things that arent.[/color][/b]


That, Jay is exactly what admins are for! And it is exactly what most admins do. The problem is when an admin doesn't stop at enforcing the rules and uses his power or threat of using it to further his/her own interests. This may even harm the website and members the admin is charged with protecting!

Just to clarify my situation, since this statement is phrased to allow people to infer that I have had my short notes and forum posts constantly removed, that I have had multi accounts and multiple warnings and bans...
Aside from having short notes removed for being too big, NONE of these things apply to me! With the exception being that I have received ONE warning in this forum because I used a modified cuss word when referring to a man that was abusing a friend at this site. Everything was denied by both parties to the admins, and he is still here.
I am member in good standing and have been so for well over a year. At one time I even considered joining Jay's dynasty when I was new.
I do what I do and say what I say because I care about a place where I DO spend a significant amount of time! I do care about a place where I have MANY friends!
I am NOT a chronic malcontent! What I AM is somebody that is NOT AFRAID to speak my mind when someone is perpetrating an injustice. I have only ever criticized anything or anyone three times in this forum and the exchange. Two times were to point out that a man was injuring a female friend by use of social/power inequity. One was just plain mean spirited and the other was based on control/power desires. That second one was very similar to the third time I spoke out which was about a certain dynasty's use of questionable tricks to win the clicking contests. The need to win, to beat others, is also what instigated this thread, the thought that an admin may be using his position to further his dynasty and his aspirations at the cost of good members.
Is this wrong for me to want you to at least THINK about the possibility that EVERYONE you meet online and yes. even here at Yarold's may be self-centered and NOT have YOUR best interests at heart all the time? And that, in the case of the first incident, may even cause you harm? In the case of the second that those of you that put such a high premium on winning that you were possibly being cheated? Or in this last case that an admin could use his position and
power to bully and manipulate otherwise upstanding members for his own / his dynasty's gain?

Guess what?
There appears to be a LOT of people that ARE concerned about these things!
Some are so tired of it, they even left Yarold's after long and distinguished memberships. Some have even paid and walked away. These people left because they were beat down fighting against people that were in a position to hurt them that they could not do anything about. I mean the full range from constant mild irritation to depression from someone ruining something they loved for them. It wasn't because of the flippant reasons Jay would have you believe based on his statement.
If you are not concerned, then good luck in all your internet dealings and especially in the REAL WORLD where people can REALLY hurt you.
At least I have made you aware. Momentarily anyway.
Of course, those of you willing to put up with abuse and look the other way to someone else being abused so that you can be liked or stay in the good graces of a website community admin, or find any "conflict" distasteful, probably don't get out very often anyway.

I will tell you one thing, NOBODY walks on me or my friends, while I sit idly by so I can stay "comfortable"!

Your Friend,
Jeff

[ Added: Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:53 am ]
bluebell_rose wrote:
albacyty wrote:
footballer wrote:
I think that this is talking about only one admin.


Of course that is only spoken of an administrator. the administrator/emperor who broke the alliance with the dynasty of the person who has begun east subject. :wink:
hmm... it is a chance?


footballer wrote:
I'm afraid to speak further


hmm... we are going to have to think seriously about engaging bodyguard to write in the forum. :razz:

This is very funny!!


very true pili. I still remember what tiddamouse said about her.


I try to refrain from anything personal, but since you are wrongly accusing my friend...
If you bothered to read the thread before making snide remarks you would know that I. JEFF started this discussion and I am not HER!

Also if if some fly-by-nighter, some flash in the pan, like "tiddamouse" had something enlightening to say she should say it... Oh wait, tiddamouse is long gone according to her profile. If you want to make derogatory comments about someone you could at least give it the personal touch and be original.
  Topic: NET FREAKS! want to thank our Allies and Friends!
Jeff

Replies: 15
Views: 11575

PostForum: Dynasty Discussion   Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:25 pm   Subject: NET FREAKS! want to thank our Allies and Friends!
CONGRATULATIONS NET FREAKS!!!!!
GREAT CLICKING!!!!!!!!!!!
  Topic: Admins who are also emp's or dynasty leaders
Jeff

Replies: 61
Views: 35074

PostForum: Dynasty Discussion   Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:03 pm   Subject: Things that AMAZE me...
1. People that REALLY DON'T know what they are talking about but are "experts" on the
subject.

2. Memory loss in otherwise young, healthy, intelligent people.

3. The Stockholm Syndrome. (Google it.)

LMAO!
  Topic: Admins who are also emp's or dynasty leaders
Jeff

Replies: 61
Views: 35074

PostForum: Dynasty Discussion   Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:55 am   Subject: Admins who are also emp's or dynasty leaders
turdkey wrote:

I blame the whole situation on not being able to have links to funny sites in my short notes and the raging price of Yak's milk. Things aren't like they used to be when good Queen Victoria was on the throne. How can people have fun if they've never known the joys of rickets and roundworm. All those little children hobbling around with bald heads painted purple used to give life a real perspective.


Now you've got me pining for the "good old days"!
  Topic: Admins who are also emp's or dynasty leaders
Jeff

Replies: 61
Views: 35074

PostForum: Dynasty Discussion   Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:01 pm   Subject: Admins who are also emp's or dynasty leaders
Hi Duncan! Good to hear from you! You are, of course, correct.
I do get out, my friend. My employer would be quite pleased to know that most of my Yarold time is during work hours. LOL! (actually, he doesn't care as long as I keep things running)

The only reason I bother with this kind of instigation at all is that my time is too precious to squander on unfair competitions or sit idly by while abusive practices are aimed at my friends. I value the time that I do spend online. So does everyone here or they wouldn't bother with Yarold's exchange, forum or this thread. LOL!

Anyway...
Go get some air! At 98 when they wheel you out of the home, DON'T let them leave you in the sun!
LMAO!

Best Regards!
Jeff
  Topic: Admins who are also emp's or dynasty leaders
Jeff

Replies: 61
Views: 35074

PostForum: Dynasty Discussion   Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:00 pm   Subject: Admins who are also emp's or dynasty leaders
WOW!
I see that this post has served it's purpose of getting people to think about it!
Well, mostly they are thinking about it.

First, let me say, I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THE ADMINS! LOL!
They do an excellent job of keeping a large and diverse site functional, workable and for the most part enjoyable.

I will only further state that it is a far cry between an emp whose only real "threat" is to drop allies and an emp that can ban you and your members and/or make your dealings difficult with other emps. Has this actually happened? Yes. Is this an "unfair" use of "political" clout? You betcha! Do people fear these sort of reprisals? Yes, of course they do. Should moderators be prohibited from dynasty positions? Probably not, I know of no one fearing" moderation".

When people vote at nearly a 2-1 margin (so far) that it is problem yet many have not left their name. I WOULD THINK THAT IS A CLEAR INDICATION OF FEAR OF RETRIBUTIONS.

I am NOT fearless, just have very little to lose.

ALSO I SHOULD MAKE CLEAR THAT THE VIEWS/OPINIONS I EXPRESS ARE PURELY MY OWN AND ARE NOT THOSE OF ANYONE ELSE...
  Topic: Admins who are also emp's or dynasty leaders
Jeff

Replies: 61
Views: 35074

PostForum: Dynasty Discussion   Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:07 am   Subject: Admins who are also emp's or dynasty leaders
Is there anyone else on this site that perceives a possible problem with site admins also running dynasties?
I see and hear of possible persuasion of other emp's by certain admin/dynasty muckity-mucks that use the site position to influence others into doing what they want.
This is NOT exactly conducive to a level playing field.
Does this bother ANYONE else?
I see no reason to name any names since everyone knows who does this.
And since I haven't named names, the only person that could possibly get all bent out of shape is probably the perpetrator/perpetators.
  Topic: When the competition turns to hatred
Jeff

Replies: 22
Views: 10036

PostForum: Dynasty Discussion   Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 3:10 am   Subject: When the competition turns to hatred
Did I say quick-witted too?
LOL!
You're a hoot!
  Topic: When the competition turns to hatred
Jeff

Replies: 22
Views: 10036

PostForum: Dynasty Discussion   Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 8:42 pm   Subject: When the competition turns to hatred
LOL!
I had no idea things had gotten so SERIOUS!
I just like to instigate and point out what I consider to a certain, shall we say, "dichotomy"!
MUSHpark, I must say that you are among most thoughtful and thought provoking people on this site.
I consider you to be extremely erudite and enjoy reading your thoughts and opinions.
It doesn't hurt that I agree 90% of the time either!!!!
LMAO!

Jeff
  Topic: "Happy Hours" are bad for Yarold's
Jeff

Replies: 31
Views: 13450

PostForum: Dynasty Discussion   Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:37 pm   Subject: "Happy Hours" are bad for Yarold's
I personally think MUSHpark brings up some very good points.
AND
Some points I disagree with.
BUT...
I REALLY like his "happy days" concept!
I have been struggling to keep my credits positive lately. (I never had a problem before)
And this had made me feel bad that I cannot post the type of extra links I used to. Now I have been limiting my 8 extra links to 20 to 50 each when I can do them. I don't like that, but gotta stay positive, right?
If I personally did the "happy day" thing I could build up credits during the "unhappy days".
I would feel better and my exchange partners would get more clicks!

Also as a bonus...
I MAY not be late for work so often.
LOL!
  Topic: Wich option you like (2nd round)
Jeff

Replies: 42
Views: 22336

PostForum: Support - Ask here   Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 5:45 pm   Subject: Wich option you like (2nd round)
I am really apathetic concerning this. I really only come here to see friends, click links and be clicked. I voted the way people I respect asked me to vote or I saw they voted. The way I see it, My dynasty RMV will always be the best no matter what it ranks in the numbers game.

Love ya!
Jeff
  Topic: CARE
Jeff

Replies: 127
Views: 80185

PostForum: Support - Ask here   Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:27 am   Subject: CARE
I can sympathize with you Salisona!

I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM!

CARE IS 74/82 90.24% NOT ALL LINKS ARE DISPLAYED.

This really stinks considering I supported the admins when many were condemning them for instituting HAT/CARE. I am now wondering if my allegiance was misplaced.

-Jeff
  Topic: dyn ave
Jeff

Replies: 88
Views: 60781

PostForum: Support - Ask here   Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:10 pm   Subject: dyn ave
Hi All!
After all the whining and crying over the last changes...
I like our little community the way it is.
I must vote NO because I don't know what changes are being proposed.
Sometimes leaving well enough alone is good. LOL!

Jeff
  Topic: Human Awareness Test
Jeff

Replies: 134
Views: 58630

PostForum: Support - Ask here   Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:45 pm   Subject: Human Awareness Test
Hi Rikiki!

I think some people are saying that when their link is clicked, instead of their link opening, a HAT opens. And this would possibly cost them a click. I suggested as a solution to this problem that their link AND a HAT open.

Jeff
  Topic: Human Awareness Test
Jeff

Replies: 134
Views: 58630

PostForum: Support - Ask here   Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:01 pm   Subject: Two ideas
Yarold's Admin,

Personally I am very happy with the site in general and have no problem with HAT/CARE.

I do kind of think one thing would help eliminate the only valid complaint (in my mind)-
Instead of replacing a clicked link with HAT, simply insert HAT as an ADDITIONAL click when warranted.

And for those who think you are wasting their time-
Maybe HAT could be beaten (with the solution changing when solved) & points awarded for the correct solution. (I don't know if that would make a lot more work for you)

I admit I did NOT read all this thread, I just don't have the time. If these ideas have already been discussed forgive me.

ANYWAY - I support you. I think you are trying to be fair to everyone. I also think that for a FREE SERVICE you have done a great job! Keep on trying, I for one appreciate what I've been given.

I don't understand what all the fuss is about! The loss of a click? The added time to do a HAT? The "intrusion" by Yarolds into the way we use Yarolds?
Hey, I come here for FUN! I met people here I really like to chat & spend some time with doing competitions and the like. NONE of THAT has changed. The icing on the cake - my cities and critters get hundreds of clicks a day! ALL THAT COST ME NOTHING.

Thank you for your SERVICE!
Jeff
 
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