minh-phuoc - Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:39 pm Post subject: VACATION FOR ALL Hi all, I'm worried about this: I think most part of members in Yarold are from countries that celebrate Christmas and New Year, everyone should be very busy at that time and no time for clicking. What happen when we come back and click again? Dyn ave drop, members ave drop, credits are negative... what all dynasties tried to build should hurt a lot after these days. I wonder if admins can set the vacation for everyone (for example 2 days for Christmas and 2 days for New Years at least) and in these days the ave are frozen, no moving up and no drop too. And it should be even nicer if there wont be neg. credit members in Yarold after vacation (for short time), that will motive people to click more I think. We are here on Yarold days and nights to click like mad even at weekend, maybe during the holidays is better to have some time for us, not for links. Thanks for reading and hope to know your opinions also. Cheryl - Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject: Re: VACATION FOR ALL
I like the idea of freezing things for two days for each as that should cover the actual holiday in all countries. I know, for me.....it is afternoon, but it is the morning of the next day for some. It would be an awesome gift to not have to worry about our clicking being counted against us during the Holidays. I think it is a good idea Minh! jassej - Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:12 pm Post subject: Re: VACATION FOR ALL
Well, I think so, and hopefully also Admin! Ferrari - Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:13 pm This is a brilliant idea! 
maybe a poll? hint hint dorville - Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:31 pm Well, at first I had very mixed feeling, but now I vote for it. It would be nice not to worry about my credits for 2 days and to spend time with family and friends. engelina - Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:43 pm yes, a very good idea. it would be nice to be able to just not have to worry about yarolds, credits, etc. so, i am all for it. Gail - Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:58 pm Very good idea, Minh! We all work hard for our averages and don't want to lose them! Sejjas - Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:14 pm Post subject: Re: VACATION FOR ALL
THIS IS THE BEST IDEA OF WORLD!!!! trollfjord - Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:15 pm I support and vote for this idea  I t would be really nice to have more time for friends and family during Christmass time and New Year.
jeeeeejjjjj Minh
pinestka81 - Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:20 pm You have my vote also, need some extra free time for my Family, especially during holiday season :):):)
zvonimir - Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:24 pm Good idea and for me.I hope it will be your idea of realise. Thank you Minh!! jkcove08 - Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:09 pm Wonerful, Wonerful, Wonderful!!!!! I love this site but will not be here to click much during Christmas.... Jenn slatown - Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:09 pm great idea!! 
azvojda - Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:47 pm Count me in! Zaecus - Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:55 pm I have no desire to "buck the trend." Many people would be grateful for such a thing and find it useful, and I would be glad to support this for them even if it would not affect me. laborca - Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:02 am great idea, i agree with minh-phuoc 
Metalteo - Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:33 am If we've to freeze everything, no avg drop, no credits lose, no negatives. We would have to take down the whole site. But that wouldn't be a problem, since all our games go on holiday too. scarlete - Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:39 am I love this idea, though I gotta tell ya, my holidays extend over all of these days and then some since we're Jewish, but I'm good with the days on "vacation" that we get. (: DemonicJ - Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:13 am Not a good idea at all. If it was to be implemented, then other holidays could/should be asked for as well. Remember its a link exchange not an average game? Schneeschaf - Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:45 am I was also really worried about this. I'll be out of town for a couple days around Christmas (not sure what days though; i actually celebrate solstice, but my parents celebrate Christmas so i'll go to see them sometime around that time, if not Christmas day). I was afraid i'd be the only one not active here and everyone would hate me, lol. Good to know others are thinking about this too. I guess i support it, but as long as everyone just understands we can't all be active during that time, that's good enough. I'll be sure to only have one link and only show it to the dynasty so hopefully i won't get negative credits. I wish i was VIP so i could hide it from history too though. It's stupid that i can't do it now just because i'm not VIP. 
Ferrari - Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:19 am
you are vip now, read your mail please 
Roman - Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:00 am I also find the idea of minh a very good one
Schneeschaf - Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:47 am
Thank you (again).  You may disregard my whining then. XD
Although i still think it's silly. Don't they realize it's the newbies who need to guard their credits the most, since they often don't have as many? 
minh-phuoc - Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:35 am Thanks for everyone's support.
I just think that almost all of members here have the same worrying on this, so there must be a solution for us. Hopefully admins can consider again abt this problem. And Yarold is sure not only an exchange site, but it became Yarold game also, average game. If not, all of dyns are trying for what? And Yarold contest is for what?
My best wishes for all, Minh Phuoc Darrel - Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:52 pm I suport this idea too
activist - Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:02 am
You are so out of date that it sounds unbelievable that you would make this comment as you are one of the most notorious Dynasty players.Are we to believe that you actually believe that?Even if you are a pagan or something and do not celebrate Christmas then give yourself a break and celebrate the New Year drinking with some friends rather than waiting for the 00.00 Happy Hour. I'm for the Happy New Year Hour. Great idea Minh and Happy Christmas. Patone - Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:46 am That's a great idea. Even though i'm not travelling anywhere, it will be good for everyone that goes away from a computer screen to celebrate holidays. I give my support.
00:00 New year Happy hour is still 21:00 on my country, so i'll participate even on that day LOL(as long as site is on) Quido - Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:38 am
So You can create a special Xmas gift  - cliks should be counted as usually, but no changes to averages will be made at 7am (just "copy the value from yesterday")
Tuleria - Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:44 pm This is a very good idea Minh! For these you are going on holidays,so they don't miss their credits,and their average not going down! I am not going anyplace this year...so I will click like usual! Merry christmas and happy new year! filmore - Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:11 pm
Agreed, not a good idea to me! DemonicJ - Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:51 pm
Yes, do it for one holiday, then people will expect it for every major holiday they celebrate & where will that end?? For years we have dealt with it (Xmas, easter, july 4th, other significant international & national holidays) & rebuilt after the break if needed, no-one complained about it then. Ehryn - Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:23 pm Well, I think a 'vacation' system should be implemented, but it should be optional. As in, you should be able to suspend your account for a determined number of days (you choose from, say, 1, 2, 5, 10, etc etc) and if you log in your vacation would be lost. We have a system like this on FRP, and each member is given a certain number of days of vacation they can take each month, and if they come back before their vacation time is over they lose the remaining 'booked' days :3 Or something, I don't know 
filmore - Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:36 pm
Ehryn - Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:08 am filmore, what exactly is that supposed to mean? If my post is confusing, say so and I'll try and make it clearer, or are you just being facetious? activist - Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:40 am DemonicJ said " no-one complained about it then." It is not a complaint,it is a request.A very nice and polite request. As has been pointed out,this is no longer just a links site as in previous years and Christmas times. It has grown much bigger than the mickey mouse [sorry ad-mins] site it used to be. It is now its own game and as other games take a break it is only a progression of this site that it follows suit. If a break is given for the hundreds of people that wish it then just live with it and as i said have a drink with some friends at midnight on the NEW YEAR HAPPY HOUR. filmore - Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:42 am
I click links in my "free" time.. I'm not seeing it as a job as I already have one full-time one and I do not expect to have a "day's off" at a links-exchange site. activist - Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:07 am Ex-links-exchange site. It is now a fully fledged Gaming Site for Gamers. Utopia is a links-exchange but i can see NO WAY that you can call them the same thing. You must agree with that or you are in a time-warp.
filmore - Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:18 am I agree that Yarolds is more than a "Exchange Site" but having "days of vacation" is going a bit too far in my opinion! I don't mind being in a time-warp, actually I'd love it
Yarold - Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:25 am If someone will do the math then sure. DemonicJ - Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:55 am
I actually like the idea of an "optional" holiday system, where by you have 'x' days a year available to use. I dont however support a mandatory break as was earlier suggested. Activist yes it was asked for politely & nicely, granted, making it a slanging match & telling others what to do or that they live in a time warp is not polite, nice or constructive to the suggestion. Not all games will be down over XMas either. activist - Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:12 am Do not throw stones when you live in a greenhouse. Best Quote 'Activist 2008' I get 100 credits. DashaBlade - Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:16 am I like the idea of an optional vacation, myself - I'm not going out of town for Christmas or New Year's since all my family lives within a half a mile from me, so I'll be on the site (though probably not as much) on those days. However, it'd be totally awesome if I could give myself a day of vacation when I get a bad migraine and looking at a monitor makes my eyes water. Or if I could just say, on some random day in mid-February, "Looks like a good day to play Sims 2 for 20 hours!" or whatever.
I'm not complaining, though, because as it is, on days like that I just do the best I can with clicking as early as I can, and then call it quits until the next reset. It would have been cool to be able to set myself on break when we got a hurricane that I knew in advance would knock our power out for at least a week, but as I was more worried about heating up canned goods on a homemade barbecue pit than I was about my click average...
Patone - Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:55 am
Yeah, a mandatory break would be bad for those who don't break. Also, shutting down the site on the holidays would be bad for most games; Dragon Cave for example, some eggs can die in 2-3 days without clicks. The idea of optional vacation is the best one.
My personal record is 18 and a half hour. DemonicJ - Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:59 am
Yes mate keep that in mind next time hey? activist - Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:54 pm I will keep it in mind=but i am not your mate=and well you know it. PROUD EX MEMBER OF NET-FREAKS ''''FIRST DYNASTY TO 500''''' ''''FIRST DYNASTY TO 500''''' ''''FIVE HUNDRED- THE 1st- ''''' Metalteo - Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:26 pm
Stay on topic. this post is classes as spam and you've received a warning for spamming the forums. MUSHpark - Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:06 am Post subject: Re: VACATION FOR ALL
I am opposed to picking special days such as Christmas or New Years for vacations. I will be working and clicking on those days. I already took my winter holiday and my average/credits suffered for it. Not everyone celebrates Christmas. Many celebrate other winter holidays, such as: - Midwinter (Dec 21-22) - Hanukkah (Dec 22-29) - Eid (Dec 8-11) - Kwanzaa (Dec 26-Jan 1) Plus there are other major holidays throughout the year. As others have posted, if you celebrate one, you should celebrate them all. This will get downright silly. There is already a suggestion on the board for individual members to "freeze" their averages for a vacation. This should be implemented and would be perfectly fine for people to use during the coming winter holidays. If Yarold wants to give everyone a bunch of credits for Christmas (as happens every couple of months anyway) that seems great. If no change is implemented, and if you are so concerned about your average that you sacrifice time with your family and friends, then you probably should reevaluate your priorities in life. DashaBlade - Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:56 am Post subject: Re: VACATION FOR ALL
Quoted for absolute truth. I think this site is great, I like the folks in my dynasty and a lot of folks not in my dynasty too, I enjoy finding new games when people post their links... but I still hug my kids and smooch my husband and feed my cats every day. I do like the idea of vacation options (in fact, I could swear I started a topic about it a few months ago), but like you said, not everyone celebrates Christmas, and not everyone who does celebrates it the same way, either. Setting our own vacations or holidays would be the best solution, but I don't really know how easy that would be to set up and code, so if it doesn't happen, I'm not going to be crying in my pillow over it.
Metalteo - Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:49 am What I still don't understand, is what the purpose of an holiday mode would be. If you're afraid losing your credits, all you need to do is hide your link. If this is only about personal averages. An average is no longer an average when you can freeze it on bad clicking days. DashaBlade - Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:03 pm Hiding links is okay for those of us who are VIPs, but for those who aren't, their links will still show up for 24 hours in history - and since most non-VIPs don't have massive numbers of credits to begin with, they'll come back to a negative balance anyway. I guess if there's no vacation option, a non-VIP's best bet would be to set their link to dynasty only, and then leave their dynasty if they're expecting to be gone for very long - at least then they might have a few credits left when they came back, maybe. Ehryn - Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:21 pm
Well gosh, I apologise that my terminology irked you I was merely offering a suggestion for a solution, there's no need to get snippy about it. I wasn't the one who made the thread, I only answered it. I used the term 'vacation' because that's how it's referred to in the system I was basing my suggestion on - if that bothers you, then I apologise.
~ ~ ~ For the record; I don't really care if this is implemented or not, I was only trying to help. I won't bother in future, since the only thing that happens whenever I do is people get snappy. Wolverines - Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:57 am
kidoku - Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:54 pm i love vacation
scarlete - Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:46 pm
Not to mention that hiding links in dynasty is generally considered a no-no and will get you kicked. I think the majority agrees with it, but that could be my imagination. If vacation days could be implemented, that would be great too. Or optional for those days. Though it's probably a little late to try working on such a code. As far as worrying about dragon cave etc, there are other places to put your eggs and hatchlings, so that really shouldn't be a concern. follydoll - Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:55 pm How many Emperors are really so hyped up on competitive averages that they are going to freak out and kick someone whose average drops a few points or who hits negatives on a holiday? Am I happy seeing my average rise each day? Yep. Am I bummed when I log in and see that I misjudged how many credits I needed to stay positive? Yep. Should I really be *that* worried if I get out of whack here because real life comes first? Heck no! Everyone relax and enjoy themselves. On a more serious note regarding a voluntary vacation mode, you would need to set a limit on the number of days in a given period that someone could opt for vacation. While a vacation mode would be a nice option for some, permanent or sporadic vacations could be a problem for dynasties. I played an interesting real time strategy game that allowed for vacation modes. When it was first implemented we had issues in a lot of kingdoms with people occupying a space in a given kingdom but providing nothing as people would go into permanent vacation mode. That lead to Monarch's being able to cancel vacation modes after ten days of vacation time. That might not be a problem here as an emperor should have notification from a member that they are entering vacation mode and how long they intend to stay that way. Ladywizard - Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:56 pm Only vacation mode I've seen that I consider half fair and dunno remember where it was but it completely locked you outta your account for x number of days(min 3) It basically complete froze the account nothing good happening nothing bad happening and you literally couldn't log in at the time doubt would work here though Patone - Sun Jan 04, 2009 5:20 am
Sure, but if you waste your vacation average-freezing days on bad clicking days you will have no vacation days to spend on real vacation.
It would be very bad for people who are still up and clicking on holidays. You can and you want to gain some credits and increase your ave, but locked holiday mode won't let you
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