red oak - Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:47 pm Post subject: Human Awareness Test What exactly should I be doing here.. ?. When I type a random letter it tells me most of the time that I did not put anything in the box. Only once I got something about the sentry or something... ??? What is it that I should be putting in the frigging box? bella - Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:10 pm It doesn't matter what you type in the box. Type a random number or whatever you like. Nothing to get stressed about - it is just a way of seeing who actually does check links before they close them. ppj2005 - Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:59 pm When you know the link you clicked was for a myminicity and you end up at the human awareness test it does not prove anything when you close that window except you knew you didn't get the link you clicked. red oak - Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:08 am
Thank you Bella, it could be than that it times out & that's why i get the error message... ppj2005 - Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:40 pm Yes there is a time function to those stupid links. Now I see that some links are invisible to me and the CARE function in my profile. I click every link and follow through on them all. The first human awareness test I closed because it was not the link I clicked and today when I snapped links and then started going through them one by one I discovered some of these tests timed out already and some just returned that they had nothing for me when I tried typing something in the box. So now there are links invisible to me because I only typed in 6 out of 14 boxes in the required time.... I am not accustomed to swearing but you have the words rolling through my head. DemonicJ - Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:55 pm Not bad hey? Get punished by not seeing links over something that "is nothing to stress about" ppj2005 - Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:02 pm Yeah, it is really nice to have something put in place without any warning or instruction and then be punished for it. stompi - Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:41 pm Yes information before making this new funkction would have been good and information what exactly happens, when you enter nothing, when you just click the button and so on. The first time I saw "button" and no number or word as typically shown, when you have to enter something, so i clicked on the button. Normally you can switch back in all games, when you entered the false number or nothing, but this didn´t work with the "sentry ward" and it seemed, that i lost credits for it. What happenes with the link, which is replaced with the ward, is the credit lost? phlaim - Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:19 pm A little more information from the admins of what's going on would be appreciated. You got the mail-system. Send out news about new features and information through it! When was the "HowTo" last updated? ppj2005 - Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:25 pm It would be nice to get some type of explanation... why do blank lines show where links should be.. is this a bug or is this part of this CARE system? Are those the links that are not all displayed or are my links the ones that are not all displayed? Waiting, waiting... stompi - Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:57 pm Hm good hint, you can be proud of making the new mail-system, but maybe some didn´t even notice it. edit: PLEASE remove the timeout for human awareness test. I just again "got nothing from it" and it was counted as not clicked or whatever you mean with it. It doesn´t make fun to only look for the links, which have the 5 minute waiting time and not being able to do something else in that time, though I look mostly in short periods after the links. You can click the game buttons also after 10 minutes or reload them if necessary! red oak - Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:55 pm Looks like from now on I will not be going through the pages to check for any actions to be taken... why bother at all... Will all links then become invisible? stompi - Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:03 pm I can´t say for sure, but I think they will be visible again, when your "care" rises. red oak - Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:30 pm I don't really care any longer, I have enough credits I need for my games, and the only 'losers' are people whose links I am not able to click and those I will no longer bother to do any 'actions' on... I will not be chasing after 'test' links just to make sure that they don't time out on me... If I run out of credits I'll simply leave Yarold's and will never buy more credits again... I had a great respect for this Exchange and administration, but the combination of recent changes is making me take a second look... Yarold - Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:33 pm Test was made to divide users of site to those who click or do whats need after opening given link and those who close window. There is no penality for not filling it. Links that they would require any action from users are not showed to users who would close window anyway. Current ratio to decide is 25% But with over 1600 links to myminicity i understand that its not easy to understand that user can get nothing when no action is taken when visiting his link. Strangly timeout for those tests is at 30mins. jennielynn - Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:14 pm Wait, are you telling me that because I had no idea what the test was and couldn't figure it out, my "care" rating or whatever is low, and I don't get to click on the other links? Where can one find their "care" rating? I've heard others talk about it. I click/continue/etc on 99% of the links I click. Those that I don't are because the target site didn't load properly, I accidentally clicked through too fast when closing minicities, or something like that. Do I have to continue to wait until I happen to get this test so that I can start getting those links again? I'm really confused now. red oak - Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:15 pm Perfect, I can live with that, but if not a time out, there was some other reason that my 'actions' did not register... I know that if I missed some of the 'test' links it certainly was not 87% and I most certainly bothered with more than 2 of them... That said, removing all 'action' links to worry about from my link list is a great benefit for me. It will save me a considerable amount of time and I thank you for that... red ppj2005 - Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:23 pm
It is not strange when you open 200 windows, actually 180 this morning and then start to make your way through each one... and yes it does take more than 30 minutes sometimes to get to all the windows, especially when I am chatting with other people as I do it. I did not read anywhere where I had to do the clicks in a certain manner and time frame. As long as I am clicking every link. Besides that, nothing prevents people from doing the human awareness test and skipping all those other windows that require some type of action. I see the links are all visible now for me and I hope that is true for the others. Again I would encourage you to give some instruction when you decide to spring something on people so people know what they are supposed to do. stompi - Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:34 pm With this information this test seems to be much less problematic 
You see, information helps to avoid misunderstandings. This explanation would also be good in the test-sites, that all can read what they are for. @ jennielynn: look to your profile / Account Yarold - Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:57 pm It will be showed in your profile after 10 tests, and before that always all links are showed. I know that after some time most will learn to fill only this test and leave the others, so except that it is just an example and will be changed in future. jennielynn - Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:59 pm I'm pretty sure I've done more than 10 tests, and I was able to view the action links this morning, but I cannot now. likeabox - Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:45 pm I was killed by the turrets. 
ppj2005 - Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:49 am you are always killed by the turrets, but then you are free to go 
shumadija - Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:13 am LOL. I started to fill this test yesterday, and I lose 15 deaths from turrets  Well, old good rule say: RTFM!
I only noticed some input from Yarold and there is no capcha's, doorgang, next, and other traps, so I nice step over submitting nutty message. /me donkey 
Rebecca - Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:29 pm Well, I am a person who ALWAYS clicks on Doorgan, etc. I think I fell into this trap because I don't open up new individual windows for the minicities, I just click on the next one and it opens in the same tab as the last one, so therefore, I never even look at the minicity tab and must have missed some of the tests. Now I click a city, wait to see if a city name shows in the tab before clicking the next city. Really slows me down. red oak - Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:46 pm I no longer bother with the test, all I lost as a result are links which require additional input... knowing that they are not there I no longer waste my time on looking for them & not having additional tasks to do, my clicking goes almost twice as fast now... ppj2005 - Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:28 am For the first time today I had two human awareness tests open when I snapped 4 links. I typed into one and died. I tried to type into the other and it said it had nothing for me. Do you not want us to snap links? shumadija - Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:00 am Do this test waste gamers credit and do gamers links apear again after solving HAT? purplemkayel - Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:04 am I haven't noticed if the credit is wasted, but the original link, if still available is greyed out on the page when refreshed and can be clicked. rikiki - Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:37 pm
I had this situation before and I think it's because those 2 tests were the same link I 'snapped' That's why you get 'nothing for me' because the test was done already. I'm not really sure but I think that's the case. Anyone can confirm? bella - Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:20 pm Maybe one had timed out. If you aren't there to fill it in immediately then I find it works best to re-load the human awareness link (in the actual browser, not by hitting refresh) before completing. Then you won't get the "I've got nothing for you". Hope that helps. ppj2005 - Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:36 pm
I will try reloading it next time but I know it wasn't a time out... only 4 links and I did the human awareness tests right away but it still gave me one failure and one success from the 2. bella - Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:50 pm sounds like you are a super fast link clicking machine (and as you thought probably managed to click it twice before it registered) 
My connection here at home has been painful this weekend, so I am jealous indeed. Yarold - Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:04 pm No credit is taken. You cant have more that one test in less than hour, so you can assume that was some error. ppj2005 - Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:10 pm I did not say credits were taken... but in the CARE section it gave me one success and one failure. I am not sure how it is set up but if you snap the links the system will give you more than one human awareness test. spurs-talkers - Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:33 pm Same here. I snaplinked about ten links, two Human Awareness links came up. The first one worked, the second one said "Sorry, I have nothing for you," but my CARE rating went from 7 of 11 to 8 of 13! So my CARE rating went down even though I tried to do both. 
Yarold - Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:45 pm Should be better now OLD HIPPY - Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:05 am I don't understand this whole thing. Where is this test? I click all Doorgans and follow thru with all site that need to be clicked. Mycity links don't require any follow thru. At least not tha I have seen. If they do can someone please show me where. This is all messed up My care is 0/15 and I don't know how to fix it!!! lurchman - Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:38 am Post subject: Any effect on Dyynasty average Hi, I do have this in my care factor line: 0/24 0% NOT all links are displayed I understood from all the posts because I closed the windown in the test (which I did not know is going on) I will now not see action links anymore. Honestly I also nevery saw something like a Human Awerness Test. Where was it? Sorry guys feel like I lost completly something 
Does that now also mean I get less clicks presented which could count to have more Dynasty clicks, because that would be a punishment? Bye Lurchman ppj2005 - Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:53 am The only way to fix it now is to click each human awareness test and raise your percentages to 25%. It usually appears on links that require no action... usually myminicity but I have also had one on world battleground. You will not see the links that require action, so yes it will hurt your personal average and you will give fewer clicks to your dynasty. It says human awareness test in the tab or window title. red oak - Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:59 pm CARE is a test to see how many monkeys will jump through the hoops for a candy... Majority of us click the 'doorgans', & 'nexts' or whatever we were asked to do... & we know which links those are. I saw a button on the new H.A.T... I clicked it... I'm not here to play additional games, nor read people's websites, I'm here to click... I see the button, I click it... I failed the test... ok, I can live with that... Next time I put a random number in the box, I fail again, I don't know why... After the forth time I come here to find out what is going on... & what is it that this site requires... I'm given some wishy-washy reply... Next thing I learn is that I failed all but 2 of the tests & that I'm not only stupid but irresponsible & uncaring clicker & need to be separated from the good ones...
I find it insulting at best and I no longer bother with the 'test', I simply skip it when I see it. FYI 'action' links are still available on Dynasty pages and I can assure all those that own them, that even though I'm classified as bad clicker, all required 'buttons' as always, are clicked, & so are double words and foxwar codes are typed in... I'm not a monkey & will not jump through the hoops and I can survive without your candies... This is not meant to upset anyone, just expresses my total frustration with the way this site is now run with total disregard for us, average members... Yarold - Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:32 pm You dont need to post that you will not do the test more than once, however your welcome to post reasons why you do so, as works to remove them are not closed. lurchman - Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:41 pm
Hello Yarold, as I mentioned that I have not noticed once the Human Awarness test and I have now effect in Dynasty that I do not reach the highest clickers, I would expect that you give those who did not pass this test , or did not notice the test to get a second chance. I was looking today all time long for one of those test. NO SUCCESS. So what is your solution for those who want to see ALL links Thank you for your answer and a solution Lurchman Yarold - Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:50 pm
Is it no success as test didnt apear or there was problem with it ? jennielynn - Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:35 pm
If your CARE rating is low, you'll simply have to keep clicking until you get more tests to pop up and you can build up your rating. Unfortunately, there's no way to build it up quicker, but it really shouldn't take too many tests to build it up, since 25% is the lower limit of showing those links. phlaim - Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:32 pm
I'd say, no test appeared. He wants them to appear so he can fix the percentage. lurchman - Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:50 am Post subject: no test appeared
Exact, I have seen now test at all and I am clicking alot, each day over 500 dynasty clicks but never reach over 600 like some other once, and they are over 25%.... so this is giving me a hard time. Thanks for helping me out of this Yarold lurchman Braat - Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:16 am what? I did not know about this test. My dynasty told me that this strange game with tipping in something I don't know, is not a game, but a test. Could you please announce such important things? I made 720 dyn clicks today with 0%, but it was really hard work -_- Perhaps I could have had even more with 25% -_- Roman - Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:06 am Post subject: Re: no test appeared
Same for me
No Test today and I want to rise my care rating .... Greetings Roman bailey - Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:26 am wow, am i glad i read some of these posts however, once i looked into it a little more i found that i have 3/19, weird coz i too check everything, but i saw the human awareness tests the first few times and just presumed it was a popup, as i never clicked on one to open anyways, i reckon they could make it easier to know when one is coming Braat - Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:52 am no. That would erase the sense of it They could make it easier to know what to do with it. Many people (me too) just did not know, what to type in and therefore closed the tab. And I think most of all won't learn it, cause they do not read the support-threads in this board chora - Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:30 am Well, i didn't noticed this test. My dynasty's friend noticed me and i found this post. To tell you the truth i haven't seen no new updates on HowTo and Announcements sections, then i think that we can't be punished by something that we haven't knew. Now in my profile it says CARE: 5/14 35.71% ALL links are displayed I'm really disappointed with it. We follow the laws and this happens! What we can do? Cry? ppj2005 - Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:39 am
You are able to see all the links, why will you cry? chora - Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:49 am
I can see all the links, but i'm saying what about my dynasty's members that have < 25% ? One of them said to me that he got a message "NOT all links are displayed". I think that it isn't a good way to punish because nobody were warned about it. fred007 - Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:40 am Ok I understand now! I always put 'anything' in the box!
Anke - Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:06 pm That's bad for me. I thought it was just a new game, but after the first one I ignored the rest, because having to pass a test to be allowed to be shot dead made me angry. Oh, well, if I don't "fail" too many because of Firefox crashes, maybe that'll right itself. Chalk one up for "don't like how this was introduced", in case you're keeping a list. stompi - Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:17 pm From FAQ: "Please allow the pop-up pages to fully load and follow through with any subsequent data entry so the person will receive the benefit of your click." From Code of Conduct: " 2. Wait for the page to fully load and follow through with any subsequent data entry so the person will receive the benefit of your click." If I translated it correct, this means, that we shall click on "doorgan", the double words, enter numbers, which are asked for and so on. So that is what I made and so I knew what to do on the different pages and I knew, that the "human awarenes test" was a new thing. My mistake at first was just, that I only clicked and didn´t enter anything, as no number was displayed. The next time I knew better and as it waits for 10 tests and only needs 25%, where is the problem? The only thing is, that it could be more obvios, such as only a button or with a displayed number to enter. But if you followed the rules, you should never had a real problem with it, because you would have passed more than 3 of the 10 tests. And a little information, about that there are now tests, what they are good for (to help the people with games, where you have to enter something) and what happenes, if you don´t do the tests would really have helped to avoid confusion and irritation. (Not necessarily how they look like of course, as all can watch only for them if they know this) How about making tests, which just look like the typical games with "doorgan", "ok", or a simple number to click. Least additional work for the clickers, not confusing anyone, more realistic for determining, who clicks right and who not. And if possible with the behavior of the games, which means that you can reload/refresh them, if you entered the false or waited too long and not just "You failed, but you cant try it again this time". And as soon as this test works fine, you could remove the frames and count every opened page immediately. So the clickers who allready clicked on doorgan could immediately close the test/game and the others will be caught sooner or later by the test. The frames now only force you to wait, not to click anything. And there would be less "Error, one frame couldnt load ()". But please make an information before you change it again. But I am also fine with that test, as human beeings can adapt fast and the test doesn´t really take much time. 
Ferrari - Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:38 pm I think there are to many mistakes to say this test is working. 1 I've had a few missed by snaplinks, if you 50 links snapt, and there are 2 tests in it, he count 1. 2 This morning before reset in snapt links, then there was reset, so I will click the links , and the test link say yarold reset. 3 Server time out, error page. all these things, we can do nothing about, so I think its not a fair test. Metalteo - Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:44 pm
Thank you for you post. This is what I would call a constructive post. Of course we'll look at the suggestion you made when improving the system. And if anyone cares to know. The admins didn't know about this either. It can as much as a surprise for me as it did for you. But it's an awareness test. kito - Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:42 pm I have a question on this test. The care line in the profile shows up like 10/20 tests= 50% All links or something close to that. Is there a top for the number of tests for your percentage? Or is the number of tests just going to increase for forever? Or maybe a time limit on it? Say is it for the last 30 days? I ask because I am curious and maybe it would help the people who were not aware at the beginning if they knew they could eventually fix their % I know when I first started seeing it I was in fast mode and just clicked the button without reading what it said. (hehe my bad) I just know it will be really hard to raise in the future if the numbers grow forever. 2134/3489 numbers that big would be fun to see though 
jennielynn - Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:46 pm I think you'd have to ignore it for a long time for it to take more than 5 or so tests to fix your average above 25%. Then again, after you have so many tests, it would be a lot harder to get down below 25%. It may be a good idea to have these tests expire after x days or so. rikiki - Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:51 pm I don't know much about programming but is it possible to set some script into the frames of each game that need to have extra 'clicks'? If there is no click to the next page, no credits are gained and the link will still be shown in grey. People will definitely do the steps if they see there still have links there. If this can be implemented then there may be no need to have a care test. Metalteo - Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:55 pm
There's already a text in the frames for links that require action since the day the frames are back. http://yarold.eu/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3837 rikiki - Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:59 pm But it's still in auto load after few minutes. I mean it will only be credited after ppl click the extra steps like Dooragan, next etc. Otherwise the link will stay grey forever. Anke - Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:59 pm There IS something broken with the tests. I had 3/19, and after that paid attention and saw none. What I did see was a completely white site, no content at all. Now I have 3/20 rikiki - Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:04 pm That's strange, I have no problem with it just now. I got 3 missed only. One I don't know why. There's very little chance I missed it. The 2nd is it came out 2 times in one go. Another one I think it's because I stupidly press the back button. Metalteo - Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:37 pm
I really wish we could, but atm, there's no way we can. chora - Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:25 pm Metalteo, first i would like to excuse me about my last post here. Thinking better about this system, on last night near reset time i was having DNS problems; many of site's links weren't loading (time out) and after i try to visit them again it says an error on frames. Maybe i need to read more about those other games, some i really don't know where to complete their click. Regards, chora lurchman - Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:45 pm Post subject: Suggestion to Action Link issue Dear Yarold, if you allow me to suggest a possible way out of this issue where not everybody's getting all action links to see unless passing the test before. If you would offer ia selection in our profile to enable action links or not, and combine this somehow with an extra click (without the need of typing in something) everybody would have the freedom either to see all links but to have an extra click to do or to do only speed clicking without action links but than to know not to get all possible links. What do you think? Cheers lurchman
shumadija - Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:51 am @lurchman, that is exactly what HAT do - if gamer wish not to see action links, he will not fill HAT. If gamer wish to increase links to click, and wish to help other games with required additional actions, he will fill and submit HAT. In that way, all is automated, no need to check/uncheck checkmarks in profile. I think this is good and fair for all, clickers and dragon/gang/war players. lurchman - Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:11 am
Hi shumadija, thank you for your remark even when I do not agree with you, HAT is a system made up by Yarold and is in first stage not linked to any kind of game but asumes that if you do not fill out HAT, you do not want to use action link and theirfore a lower 25% Care rate is set. As for myself I do click DROGAAN or whatever needs to be done but I have not seen those HAT pages and now being doomed to not have all links. Example today I have done 4 action pages but still nothing improved in my CARE. So it is not linked in my point of view. Cheers lurchman
shumadija - Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:12 am Oh, I think that HAT page appears behind nonaction links. First couple days I ignore HAT and skipped 15 tests. But now I have 22/41, not bad at all
Rebecca - Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:43 am The problem with this is that it changes the whole way that we click the links. I do not use snaplinks and FireFox for yarolds. I used to be able to "speed click" through the minicity links, why would I ever look at those? There is no action required, only the click, and yet this is where most of my tests come from. So now, I must click one by one, seeing if the tab says human awareness test. Why not have it set for only the games that require an extra click? shumadija - Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:55 am Well Rebeca, HAT is exactly what you say. If someone don't wish to click action links, with not filling HAT she/he will not have action links to click. Simple will ignore HAT and don't look at tabs chasing one for test. They who wish to click action links will take attention on HAT and fill the quest. Will not ignore HAT.
stompi - Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:59 am
How do you "speed click" then? What method is faster than snaplinks? At first I also thought it would be meaningful to show this test on action required links, but with the solution of not showing these links when your care is too low, you would have no chance to increase it again, when it falls below 25%. edit: Now I had another idea: We could have an box to check in profile, if we want action required links to be shown to us. If we check "No", they are simply not shown and no HAT will appear. If we check "Yes", all action required links will be shown and also the tests (which could look like some games, as I suggested above, too). If the care is below 25% we just don´t get credits or dynasty average rise for the action required links. Metalteo - Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:38 pm
I'm afraid that's very easy to be abused when it can be switched on and off all the time. stompi - Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:50 pm "I'm afraid that's very easy to be abused when it can be switched on and off all the time." How could this be abused? If you check it off, you don´t see this action required links like doorgan, enter number and so on. If you check it to "Yes", you would see this links and some of them are tests, too. So they don´t know which one is a game and which is a test(when tests are made like the games) and would have to make the action to not being rated below the 25%. Yarold - Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:37 pm * users can now set if they want to see all links and have tests in profile * tests can now occur only when clicking link that require any acction (or we didnt set if its required yet) * if user have option to see all links set and its rating is below 25% tests are made as before (with equal probability for both required action and non required action links) Rebecca - Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:30 pm
I didn't say my way was faster, it's just what I do, click on them rapidly, one by one, using IE. It has always worked fine for me since I started Yarold's, so I never even bothered to look at the minicity tab that opens, which is how I got trapped by this "feature." lurchman - Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:07 am
Hello Yarold, thank you for considering my suggestion to do such a think. Great. Cheers lurchman
oshkoshbosh - Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:18 am No warning, no instructions - clicking on everything that I can think of - time to get even - no second clicks from me - time to find a different monkey...
Sonatina - Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:30 pm I might just be really dense, but I can't for the life of me figure out where to find my care factor. I know it's supposed to be on my profile, but I don't see it o.o;; Tsai - Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:36 pm
As long as you haven't received 10 tests yet, you will not see the care factor. It will appear in your profile automatically after your 10th test. Sonatina - Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:40 pm Oh, I see. Thanks for the quick answer! Metalteo - Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:56 pm
You should be able to see it now
ps81-10b - Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:20 am O M G !!! randyman666 - Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:31 pm i cant click the criminalsv2 links :S everytime i click a criminalsv2 link it says: this person already has 50 junkies:( so how can i click it than??? purplemkayel - Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:11 am
All that means is that they've received the maximum junkies for the day set by their game... once they've received the maximum junkies, the click button no longer appears. You've done the right thing to look for the button, nothing to do if it isn't there
randyman666 - Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:14 pm but now i cant click criminals links anymore:S Metalteo - Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:16 pm
That's because you're CARE is too low. mexelle - Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:20 pm Well I briefly read through most of the pages in this thread and I am still unsure about what a HAT looks like. When we receive a HAT does it automatically change the original link to a HAT link and it says in the link title that it is a HAT? OR. Does the original link we click still look the same, but there is some icon on that page that leads to a HAT that we must click on first? I have selected 'yes' for the All links and HAT setting, but I have not come across a single HAT these past few days and it is probably because I don't know what to look for. Metalteo - Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:23 pm
Don't worry you're doing fine, you're care wont show untill you've seen 10 HAT. But you've seen them and have done them right. randyman666 - Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:41 pm how high must my care are to click thoose people again?? jennielynn - Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:00 pm
As long as your CARE is above 25% and you've chosen to see all links, you'll see them. They're only hidden if your CARE is below 25% or you've chosen not to see them. mexelle - Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:04 pm
O okay then. Thanks for the reply. randyman666 - Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:53 pm but my care is 27% and i see hidden links of criminalsv2 and warcity:S and i always clicked them. jennielynn - Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:56 pm
I'd just check to make sure that All Links is set to Yes. If it is, then I guess the Admins will have to look into that one.
Metalteo - Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:16 pm
Maybe you should try to read it better, it's far from 27%. randyman666 - Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:36 pm i did read it bad i see. but why didn't yarods send to all members a pm?? with how your new test work??? i always thought they were clicked. how can i now that you are making new test etc? i dont have to look at the forum the whole day. i have better things to do!! so its a little sloppy of all admins. jennielynn - Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:11 pm
I think that the point was NOT to give people a heads up, because they wanted to more accurately gauge how people are responding to action links. If people knew about it ahead of time, they could just look for it, and only do the action on those links, and still skip all of the other ones. I think many people agree, that the format of the test isn't very clear, but future incarnations of the test hopefully will work better.
activist - Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:46 pm As i knew nothing about this HAT thing when it came up on the screen instead of the link that i clicked,i naturally did not fill it in as i assumed it was just more Virus ********** that i keep getting from this site. I think your HAT is stupid!!!! snellie - Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:31 pm I ALWAYS KLIK ON NEXT OR VIEW
I now can not click foxwar, warcity, dragon cave and criminals when they just put a next button and did not put it on the bottum off the page. there would be more clicked  SO I DO NOT LIKE THAT TEST BECAUSE I CAN NOT CLICK A LOT
1/11 9.09% NOT all links are displayed
jennielynn - Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:41 pm
If you get just a couple more tests and pass, you should be back to seeing your links. snellie - Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:47 pm smart putting your link 
now i can click it Rebecca - Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:09 pm Just an observation, but this test seems to be having the opposite reaction of your intentions. I have heard from so many people that said that they always clicked the required 2nd click, and are so angry about the test, that now they will not. jennielynn - Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:05 pm
I don't understand this philosophy at all. If people were clicking the continue links and such to ensure that people got credit for the clicks, why would they then punish those people for something that the administrators implemented? Rebecca - Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:24 pm Because they are angry at being MADE to jump through hoops? Because they were good and honest clickers, and now if they miss some, they are being punished? Like I said, just an observation about the feedback from many people that I'm getting on it. This test doesn't work the same way for all people depending on which browser they use and how they click links. I miss them lots of times because I choose to use IE for yarold's, and I speed click through minicity links, especially during our happy hour. Not to sound like a broken record, but why would this test appear on things that don't require 2nd clicks? If it only appeared on them, I would be at 100%. Itsami - Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:39 pm For some sites you need to enter certain digits to help the user. (I only remember that this is the case for Forwar, Futureminicity,...). So if you want to help them you got to enter the numbers and letters, and if you don't, you won't help that much. This is why I don't understand the complaints. Either you want to help someone and enter the digits (then you won't fail when a HAT appears and you'll be rewarded) or you decide not to help everyone (why should you get a reward then?) And if the ones are honest clickers, then they will surely help each other, won't they? Phara - Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:09 am I didnt know this thing to, i am now now at 4% basicly ruined my fun in Yarols, i thought that HAT was another game , and i pressed there ...... and now i realised it ruined my fun cuz i cant click ? weird stuff here, i hope that HAT page will show up soon... I have some words to say there
Yarold - Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:39 am
Some or all, its not 100% its 25%
HAT dont apear on links like myminicity from long time.
Because we have limited amount of admins. 880 link types vs 5 admins afphotowife - Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:52 am I understand the reasoning I just wasn't expectiing it! I always wait till things load to look at everyone elses stuff. But I never filled anything in and now I'm hurting because of it! jennielynn - Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:32 am
What is your care rating at currently? I can tell you how many tests you need to pass to get all links to show again if you'd like. CoCo - Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:16 am What I don't think is fair is the fact that this test is hurting the people who have Dragcave links. Dragcave does not require any further action and since I have one, not many people can click them, thus not helping my dragons. Dragcave only requires clicks into the scroll, views are optional. Itsami - Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:00 am In my experience, HAT appears 2-3 times a day (in average - sometimes less, sometimes more).
If the user does a refresh, he still can see your link and click it. Thus you won't get less clicks for your links
turdkey - Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:23 am My new philosophy is one click only rather than the multiple I used to give dragons and that is if I continue to even CARE! Mind you I still wait for the click counted rather than scuttle of quickly when done comes up and that is something CARE does nothing to check just like whether anyone clicks on in myminicity.in and judging by last nights figures that's way less than 50% 
It's not what you do, it's the way that you do it! ppj2005 - Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:31 am Admins... this is not for me, but for the sake of those who started out using snaplinks and opened multiple windows at once with only 1 test passing for a success (7 or 8 for me on the first morning, 2 later in the day) and for those whose English was not good enough to understand what was required, would you increase the frequency of the tests so people have a chance to fix the problem? Suggestion for next test: Instead of a box where you type anything, actually ask for a code. Itsami - Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:39 am I think most of us know what this test is about. If not, it can be looked up in the forum (maybe it should be added to the faqs to have a short idea what the HAT is, otherwise you have to read a few pages of posts to find it out). 
Well, if they simply open&close tabs and don't do the test, how could that help?
Hm, they can look it up in the forum. But I have to admit that I needed some time, too, to figure it out. But now there's so much written about the HAT (including pictures) that it can be understood quite well.
And if someones English isn't well, I'm sorry for him/her, but more HATs won't help him/her either.
It might work. But I don't know how much work it requires to implement it and if it is wanted to change it. ppj2005 - Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:05 pm
Snap links is a tool used to open tabs, it does not close them. I use snap links and from day one I have practiced looking at just about every window. The quote above was about the fact that when the HATs were first implemented they opened multiple HATs but only one could be successful, giving people a false score if they even understood it correctly in the first place.
Since English is a germanic language as well and you appear to be from Germany, it was likely not as hard for you as for some others. We are talking about fixing something for those less fortunate than yourself who did not understand, do not comprehend English well enough to read this forum and understand it. Since they can now see the links hidden due to care, they have sought people out to explain and as it dawns on them what they need to do they have quite an uphill battle to climb.
Just want to negate everything today don't you? Supplying a code is what a few of the games require. The test could implement clicking a word that appears twice. The reason I put supply a code is because leaving a box with the words "type anything in the box below" left a lot of players closing the window initially. I did type "anything in the box below" just like it told me in the second HAT I ever had, but I still died. The suggestion was not meant for you but for the admins who can use or ignore it as they wish, just as they can the request for more frequent tests. I would be curious to know what harm it would cause you if people receive 2 tests an hour rather than 1. As to the amount of work required, the admins know their jobs and they have told us there will be different tests in the future so you do not need to worry about it. Itsami - Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:34 pm Wow, what's bitten you? No need to react in this way. It's just my opinion, as well as you can have yours. But if my post sounded to harsh and offended anyone, I apologize of course.
But I'd rather prefer to change the appearence of the HAT then to increase the amout of HATs. Btw, PM for you, ppj2005 Starfighter - Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:17 pm I got “1/37 2.7% NOT all links are displayed” by that time, while did not understand that this HAT is. “Thanks to comrade Stalin for our happy childhood.” 
Ehryn - Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:55 pm I don't know what all the fuss is about - especially from the people who say they always input things into the links they click. I just found out my CARE rating just now - 8/11 I managed. That's WITH my impatience and hammering of the (x) on FF to shut the millions of MMC links I open. PLUS not actually knowing what CARE/HAT was for pretty much the same amount of time as the complainers >.> I put 'anything' in the box as a joke - but also because I figured it could be a trick question (since these kind of things usually are, and I didn't realise it was a Yarolds HAT, I thought it was a new link) so I figured I'd stick with what was working
I don't think it's that big of a deal, if you miss them you miss them. If you always, always click every link you need to enter additional information into, you shouldn't have missed the HATs surely? Heck, I only usually click them - sometimes I'm in a rush, or I miss them, or the page doesn't load properly and I'm too frustrated to refresh the page. And I'm still over the limit. I'll prolly get my head bitten off for this, but I just don't think it's that much of a problem  It's definitely being blown out of all proportions...
Besides, what about the people who never click the additional input links like doorgaan or whatever, but know about the HATs and remember to input data for them? They'll still be stealing people's credits just because they have the good sense to enter the right information on the HATs. It's a profoundly flawed system, but not one to get your panties in a bunch over >.> Starfighter - Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:45 pm What didn't like to me? I’ll try to explain: [USE ENGLISH ONLY] Is it clear? I think, similarly as information about HAT for me.
Ehryn - Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:57 pm http://www.freetranslation.com
It's not perfect, but it gets the general gist of the thing. If you do not understand English, use a translation site rather than ********** about it >.> It will give you enough comprehension to be able to understand what is required of you. Это не прекрасно, но это получает общую суть вещи. Если Вы не понимаете английский язык, используйте участок перевода вместо того, чтобы скулить об этом>.> Это даст Вам достаточно понимания, чтобы быть в состоянии понять то, что требуется из Вас. Starfighter - Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:09 pm I understand English perfectly, when it is indeed wanted to report something. But in this case all was not transparent. P.S. And I offer you does not "**********" about imperfect translators. Ehryn - Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:14 pm I was only trying to help >.> It frustrates me when people use the language barrier as an excuse is all, I'm sorry if I came across as aggressive or offensive. Starfighter - Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:23 pm No problem. You are a free man and have a right for your point of view. And I so. I play games without additionall clicks. I didn’t think that other exist before HAT's story... Metalteo - Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:20 pm
Maybe you should have read the rules.
And use English in the forums thank you. Starfighter - Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:09 pm Formally, you are right. My problem is my problem. I'll be more attentive in the future. To be a fool very unpleasant... Ehryn - Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:16 am Sorry Metalteo, I wasn't thinking about that ^^; I did put translations of what I said for the English speakers though ^^; I hope you'll forgive me <3 Jeff - Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:01 pm Post subject: Two ideas Yarold's Admin, Personally I am very happy with the site in general and have no problem with HAT/CARE. I do kind of think one thing would help eliminate the only valid complaint (in my mind)- Instead of replacing a clicked link with HAT, simply insert HAT as an ADDITIONAL click when warranted. And for those who think you are wasting their time- Maybe HAT could be beaten (with the solution changing when solved) & points awarded for the correct solution. (I don't know if that would make a lot more work for you) I admit I did NOT read all this thread, I just don't have the time. If these ideas have already been discussed forgive me. ANYWAY - I support you. I think you are trying to be fair to everyone. I also think that for a FREE SERVICE you have done a great job! Keep on trying, I for one appreciate what I've been given. I don't understand what all the fuss is about! The loss of a click? The added time to do a HAT? The "intrusion" by Yarolds into the way we use Yarolds? Hey, I come here for FUN! I met people here I really like to chat & spend some time with doing competitions and the like. NONE of THAT has changed. The icing on the cake - my cities and critters get hundreds of clicks a day! ALL THAT COST ME NOTHING. Thank you for your SERVICE! Jeff Starfighter - Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:47 pm Post subject: Re: Two ideas Free cheese is only in a mousetrap. It's a joke.
Service (free of charge especially) without community is nothing. Interests of community are necessary to be taken into account. When laudations are audible only, and who is displeased at that specify to a door, it disturbs me… 
In fact obviously, problems are present and they are not decided. For example, HAT is some strange decision. We all must help to find the best decisions. jennielynn - Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:48 pm Post subject: Re: Two ideas
I do think that the admins have admitted that this wasn't the best solution to the problem, and that they're open to looking into fixing what's broken with it. However, given all of the other great stuff that's been going on with the site lately, I'm inclined to give them a little break and let them pick it up when they can really focus on doing it right.
rikiki - Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:59 pm Post subject: Re: Two ideas
I do not understand this part, can explain in more detail? Where to insert additional click? Jeff - Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:45 pm Hi Rikiki! I think some people are saying that when their link is clicked, instead of their link opening, a HAT opens. And this would possibly cost them a click. I suggested as a solution to this problem that their link AND a HAT open. Jeff jennielynn - Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:15 am
it doesn't cost them a click. The link that would have opened is still available if you refresh the page and the clicker can click it again. Then it could charge a credit. |
