bella - Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:24 pm Post subject: Happy "Hour" extra links Hi All, So the question is, what do we do about Happy "hour"? (For those of you who don't understand what I mean - each night at 11pm Dutch time, we set extra links so we can all click more and have higher averages). The problem being that less and less people are actually setting links, and more and more people are simply showing up to click and not participating. Of course we can't force people to show their links or stop them from clicking our if we show them. But we are getting sick of being "credit farms". So what do we do? DemonicJ - Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:34 pm get rid of the ability to hide links in dynasty for a start. Make it if they want to hide links in dynasty they have to delete their link altogether (means they cant click anyone then!) I took a look at the amount of hidden links at Server time: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 23:22:31 (during happy hour I might add) Here is what I found MMC Mob 4/71 hidden, 6% hidden links IIM 24/75 hidden 32% hidden (WOW) Crazy Clickers 8/46 hidden links for 17% hidden Gamers Alliance 9/45 hidden for 20% hidden Untouchables 7/29 hidden 24% hidden I dont understand why people are in dynasties if they are going to hide links! Cheeta - Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:36 pm I think its very simple, it was fun while it last and we better stop it. Lets just make this a Happy Clicking site 
OLD HIPPY - Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:41 pm Is there a way to sit the game so that only people with mulitible links showing turning that time can get credits for the clicks? If not I say do away with it all together!! Your never going to get all people to be fair about it. Sad to say bella - Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:43 pm Hidden links is a separate issue. We could also talk about how some people never have any credits, which can be equally as frustrating. As it works now, to be able to click, you do need to have a link set. Only VIPS can remain hidden. (VIPS are people with a blue star who have donated to the site). At the moment, when people do click their links will appear in history, unless they delete them completely from their profile. Frankly those who do that annoy me a lot more. But back to happy hour.... Wolverines - Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:44 pm i thought this was a click site and not a game..people only do it to get higher averages so they can say this dynasty is better than that dynasty...you can disagree with that but it is true...if wasnt true why the bogus links from most of the people...i say kill happy hour...lucky if i make it 2 times a week bella - Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:51 pm Maybe there is something that can be done. I'm not technical though so I don't know what is involved, how long it would take, how tricky it would be, or whether it is worth it. Maybe it is just time to stop it. We did have fun but there are too many people now who'd rather just take than participate. DemonicJ - Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:54 pm Im in favour of ditching it. As Wolverines says, its a means where some dynasties do farm to improve their averages. Its a click exchange site, some go out of their way to help others & some go out of their way to help themselves Wolverines - Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:00 am well some do show multi links during the day one at a time..some games are different than other like WBG u can get guys/turns form someone 12 hours after they clicked the first time..so people in WBG usually show link multiple times per day bella - Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:01 am I'll check back on this later, so keep your comments coming in so we get as many people's opinions as possible. (I'm at work at the moment and this doesn't look like work. Don't want to get busted!  )
Metalteo - Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:02 am Maybe it's time to get rite of the whole avg ranking system for dynasties and replace it with another ranking system. In my opion it doesn't mean anything anymore, with happy hours and the transfering to lazy clickers that are awarded for not clicking and do recieve a lot of free clicks. Just my 2 cents. DemonicJ - Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:02 am
there should be a provision in yarolds for games that can be clicked every 12 hours Summery - Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:03 am Think that those that still want happy hour, make that choice to participate, knowing that other's will come in and click, and not always show a link of their own. It's done all throughout the day and night, happy hour isn't any different. Nobody should be made to feel like they have to participate, and not everyone coming in to click know there's happy hour. For all the regulars, there's tons of new people that come and go and aren't aware of what is going on, and most importantly, not everyone can afford the credits to participate. Forget about your average, I've always just wanted to see people come in here and faithfully click on a daily basis, whether it was 50 links, 100, or 200+ - I just want people participating in clicking links! Metalteo - Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:07 am
Please stay on topic, post suggestions in the suggestion forums. PS. you have a point there DemonicJ - Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:10 am
HOw exactly does the current dynasty average system work? Metalteo - Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:16 am
It counts the average clicks you make a day by clicking members of your dynasty and allies. DemonicJ - Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:21 am Dynasty averages & how better to measure them could be a whole new topic! Metalteo - Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:29 am
I know this is about happy hour, that has been started by users, to inprove their avg. With the happy hour can can come online for 5 minutes a day at 23:00 hours server time. Click a lot of links, there's plenty at tme and get a decent avg to prevent you from getting kicked from the dynasty. You're credits will go into negatives, but who cares? firemanden - Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:33 am Maybe it's time to get rite of the whole avg ranking system for dynasties and replace it with another ranking system. In my opion it doesn't mean anything anymore, with happy hours and the transfering to lazy clickers that are awarded for not clicking and do recieve a lot of free clicks. Just my 2 cents. I agree with Metalteo. After all this is a click exchange and not a game unto itself. Happy hour is just a medium for people to boost their average. We also have those that come on for happy hour, show their links for under 5 minutes, and click away on those that do show their links. Change the average system and if you are in a dynasty give 1 credit for each click to bring the scoring system on a par with the "link exchange". This might generate a better quality of clicker in the Dynasties as their are people who do not join dynasties because in fact you are being disadvantaged. Den. Ferrari - Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:01 am Post subject: HH ...... CrazyClicker41 - Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:09 pm
yeaah thats a great idea metalteo
some people do'nt show during happy hour because they do'nt know what happy hour mean,or they dont have enough credits desert-king - Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:59 pm Well, I probably do that, clicking on every link that is showing during "happy hour", while having myself only 1 link clickable... and why shouldn't I. I mean, when I am online, I click every link I see, just to build up credits so other people can click my link. And correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that was the whole idea of this site. Apparently, some people decided that this site should have a whole new purpose, like boosting your avg without gaining any credits (like with donating 1 credit to someone without any credits, and then clicking his link, or whith this happyhour stuff), I mean, i they want to play it that way, good for them, I don't mind, but don't go stabbing the ones that use this site for what it is made. You can't expect people to do nothing for half an hour, just because a few people decide this should be happy hour. I can understand they want to get rid of it, it probably consumes a lot of credits, so maybe they 'd better get rid of it. Let's just use this site for clicking links that actually mean something, not just for empty clicking. Good idea by the way to change the whole ranking system, though I can't think of a good system right now. But maybe it'll come to me Wolverines - Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:44 am i dont think anything need changed with the site....just happy hour....if it isnt someone complaining about fake clicks it is someone complaining about people not showing link for happy hour...like i said before this is a link exchange if you were gaining clicks for your games by post those links nothing would be said...i think it is pretty sad when people post others name in there profile saying u need to post links and stop stealing or whatever...that should stop Ferrari - Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:25 am .... Aiki - Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:00 am Well, we could try to make Happy Hour more known to "new" players. I for myself know that I lose more credits nowadays when clicking Happy Hour than I gain credits.  But who am I to complain, I can be there for Happy Hour at most 4 times a week. And then I show all 4 links. And when we are educating the newer members we could also tell them to show in dynasty rather than on the main screen. But that's another topic. _o_ Aiki
mrpoey - Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:40 am There needs to be an option like this: Share your link with this user? and a check box next to it, so for happy hour... you can select only the people who have links shown who you want to share them with( a check box for each link ) this way, happy hour participants can have their own little loop and have no "leechers" This may be unrealistic as happy hour is not really part of the site, just something people do, but it is a solution. And yeah, i'l be back soon 
[ Added: Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:51 am ] As for the problem with all the lazy people in -1, Dynasties need a unique credit system. Each dynasty needs a credit bank. when you click a link from your allies, the credit comes out of their credit bank, and your dynasty bank gains a credit. You dont lose or gain anything from clicking within your dynasty. you would still have your own credits(from clicking the main page) but these are seperate from the dynasty bank. however you can deposite these into your bank/award them to members. even give your allies in need some. if someone isn't clicking and is leeching off your bank showing 2-3 links, simply kick them. This means your dynasty never has members who are in -1 Let's see some feedback 
[ Added: Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:08 pm ] Rankings need changed too, Like this. Peasant: Can only show 1 link Daimyo: 2 links a new rank:3 links Shogun: 4 links this way the active clickers in dynastys are allowed to show more links, and the peasants cant show 4 links and swallow up the dymastys credit bank. bella - Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:23 pm Some good suggestions. Thanks all. DemonicJ - Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:23 am
I have guys in my Dynasty doing 200 Dynasty Clicks a day that are -1. Wouldnt consider them lazy! They do however show their links at all times. I like the idea of a credit bank. Maybe a percentage of dynasty clicks get used to get the -1 a bit of a hand? bella - Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:00 pm I wouldn't say they were lazy, but it does seem dodgy to me to have out 4 links when only one click per IP actually counts. Of course people can show however many links they choose, but do you think they are perhaps a little confused? DemonicJ - Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:53 pm Most of them are new to the game & to yarolds. Im doing my best to guide them. its not in their best interest to show 4 of the same link as you said Bella, one click per IP/day counts so they arent doing themselves any favours mrpoey - Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:26 am Well I wasn't really pointing fingers, I just recently came back to yarolds from my break and noticed a whole new dynasty of 70 members all MMC links lol, MMC has really developed on this site. ( when i left majority of the -1 were people who joined a dynasty, gathered free clicks got booted and joined the next one) Yeah some of the dynasty clicks could be given automaticaly to the members in need( or just award them some from your bank when they are low) The whole dynasty thing needs to have some perks, you may get a few more clicks but maybe building on the whole system, you can get your clicks from the main page the same way.. being active in a dynasty should offer some benefit I could probly think up quite a few ideas to make the site better my messengers are added here.. if anyone wants to brainstorm with me go ahead and add me
Wolverines - Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:50 am why the need to give people in the negative credits? in turn will make them click less since they getting free credits.....it is not that hard to build up credits mrpoey - Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:33 am well , it is , I currently get around 150 received clicks each day . . so that means if i want break even on the day, I have to click that many, not everyone click that much . . may click around 70 or so , so at the end of the day they will be in -1 I know it isnt that hard to build up credits, i built up quite a few myself.. but it takes some work to break even . . every dynasty has members who dont click 150 each day . . Also, with the dynasty bank, -1 wouldn't exist anymore. Wildthing - Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:12 pm
I was talking to someone last night and said this same exact thing not even being aware of this thread as I haven't been home from my trip long.. its spooky if we are thinking the same way *trembles* BUt that is something I am all for. As for Dynasties I am all for them, with or without average and links clicked per day being shown and such, I honestly don't see the point. To me a dynasty is a small family and I love all of mine dearly but maybe the averages are killing things.. maybe if we just have each as a seperate group and abolish averages completely will get it back to being just about clicking the links shown and such and make things loads better. As for happy hour I havent had to use it much but when I do I always switch up to a different link and urge my guys and gals to do the same. There is a solution we just eed to find it. I am editing this to add.. why not do away with transfers entirely. Let people sink or swim on their own capacity. Do away with averages entirely but keep the dynasties as people love being with a good group of friends make it about clicking then maybe happy hour won't be as competetive or what not I don't know.. just some more suggestions. DemonicJ - Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:26 am Get rid of transfers, now thats a great idea! It would mean the end of the fast credit transfer to increase ones dyn average & would mean dynasties would have to work harder &/or smarter. If that came in Id say keep the dynasty averages because it would then actually mean something! BAS - Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:28 pm well what id like to know is the extar slots in profile there for you to use to get clicks for different games or are they there to bogusly boost your averages? i also think transferring credits to be able to click someone to boost your average as being silly. Stray - Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:46 am
Im not able to transfer 1 credit, the system asks me to atleast transfer 25 creds. Am I the only one getting this? DemonicJ - Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:55 am
Everyone gets that now! So noone can do the old send 1 credit & get the click routine! If you want to help someone on -1 you have to give them 25 credits! Stray - Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:58 am
Ok, I thought I was the only one getting that message. But still some people have insane amount of dyns clicks per day.... lol stulax18 - Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:10 am i like the idea of a dynasty credit bank, that way dynastys are working together as a team to help each other get links clicked. it seems like it would be fun to be able to help out other members easily, just by clicking. Wildthing - Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:09 am Its an interesting idea a credit bank but how do you work such a thing so its not one two or three people doing all the ork while others leech off for a free ride and such like that? mrpoey - Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:28 pm
Well some people would do more then others to be expected, you can rank people according to their activeness .. like those annoying people who show 4 links and dont click very much who are always in -1 , rank them to peasant which would only allow them to show one link in dynasty(to limit leechers) As for the people who join, do nothing and get kicked 3 days later, set a fee of 30 credits or something to join(they deposit it into the bank) once they do that take them off the joining rank Wildthing - Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:55 pm Thats an interesting idea but with this new reset I dont think I'd be for it as I was before, yes the new updates give more real clicks and am all for that but I am not about to depo credits if I wont be able to make use of them do to when things will be reappearing for me and I think others might feel the same. I don't know but thats just me to be honest. |
